[PatrickHenry]

Everybody be nice.

[PatrickHenry]

Evolution Ping The List-O-Links

A conservative, pro-evolution science list, now with over 370 names. See the list's explanation, then FReepmail to be added or dropped. To assist beginners: But it's "just a theory", Evo-Troll's Toolkit, and How to argue against a scientific theory.

[Obadiah]

Well, they can fight back, but it's a losing proposition. I guarantee you that every evolutionist will at some point personally see the folly of evolution. I just hope that their realization happens on this side of their breath.

[Elpasser]

Evolution supported by "testable theories"?

How laughable. These people bend real science beyond recognition to fit their belief in this hooey.

[sandbar]

>>>origins of life on Earth.>>>

Which is still a THEORY.

[VadeRetro]

Ahah! You throw a rock in a pack a dawgs an' the one that yelps is the one that got hit.

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[Dumpster Baby]

"Everybody be nice"

LOL

Yes, this subject does get folks riled up. I'm handicapped by having worked and played in technical fields my whole life. I can't see electricity but I can prove in many ways that it exists. The whole concept of provability prevents me from being able to blindly accept celestial magic and the Poof Theory about how the whole universe got here 6000 years ago. I feel that people should be free for believing or not believing without being condemned and chastised. I believe in investigation and research arriving at the best possible explanation for anything, and if a theory is *proven* to be wrong, then set it aside and try again. It's a perpetual process of refinement and reaffirmation of known facts and the exploration of new data and theories. It's a process far from perfect and far from complete, but IMHO it beats the Poof Theory by a very wide margin.

[VadeRetro]

A variation of this is called "intelligent design" which acknowledges evolution but claims that genetic mutations are guided by God's hand rather than by Charles Darwin's process of natural selection.

This is the official face of ID. Actually, most of the ID advocates on the Internet do not accept evolution and are exceedingly cagey on questions of what they do believe. Far and away most of THEM seem to be evangelicals, oddly enough.

[DoctorMichael]

Remember: The purpose of Creationism/IDism is to destroy and discredit this very website, the Conservative Movement and ultimately Western Civilization.

[RightWhale]

There is another problem in science. Some say that science is public, that is, that it takes two to make a measurement of the speed of light, but it is actually ultimately private. Every scientific measurement has to be done by one scientist or it must be questioned. Who will take up the challenge of the relativists since Ives and Bridgman are gone?

[Filo]

The "resurgence" of creationism is akin to a "dead cat bounce" - in the end it'll mean nothing as science, intelligence and observation and reality win out.

[Skooz]

Everybody be nice.

First time for everything, I suppose. I admire your optimism.

[Hoplite]

In before Stalin!	Damn you!	?!?

[greenthumbedislndr]

oh I'm so glad we're homeschooling my kids. No, we're not going to indoctrinate them, but at least we can present both evolution and creationism at the same level, Evolution as a theory and creationism as a belief system, neither one of them has been proven but the evolutionist story keeps changing. There have been several times that their "unmistakable proof" has proven to be very mistaken.
It angers me to see that evolution is presented as a fact. Just watch the Discovery channel. Do they ever say "We believe the theory that 4 billion years ago...etc."? NO, it's always: "4 billion years ago this and that happened". I find that insulting. There is so little real evidence that could survive that long that it's ridiculous.
They're like little ants trying to describe how the Empire state building was built: "A million ant years ago before there were any ants, there was this little stone which nobody saw, that just got bigger and bigger and evolved into a huge building and some parts of the stone mutated into lights and some parts turned into computers, and the building grew to be millions of "ant feet" tall.

[meowmeow]

Evolution.

[TheBattman]

Sorry - I may be close-minded - but here is the evidence I choose to follow:

I personally believe that there is no way to justify evolution and be a Christian, as Christianity includes believing the Bible. Evolution and the Biblical story of Creation are incompatible. I know - I spent many years of my life trying to fit one into the other.

If the Bible is wrong on creation - then it is not infallible and thus the whole thing can be considered of no use.

[after dark]

These "scientists" are leftists. Notice how worried they are about the environment. They are hoping to exploit Darwin's theory to destroy fundamentalist Christian schools and fundamentalist Christian churches. They are blatantly misusing science. Any real conservative, whither you believe Darwin's theory or not, should be able to see through this nonsense. These people are not trying to spread scientific knowledge. They are trying to destroy one of the last bastions of traditional western values. These "scientists" are evil people who have been educated beyond their abilities.

[RobRoy]

"Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin..."

Or as a creationist would put it, "Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common designer..."

[BaBaStooey]

"In various parts of the world, within science courses taught in certain public systems of education, scientific evidence, data and testable theories about the origins and evolution of life on Earth are being concealed, denied or confused with theories not testable by science," the declaration said.

Well, in this part of the world, children are being taught a theory not testable by science. It is called evolution. Everything else is being concealed.

[longshadow]

festival of the B-Team anti-Evos placemarker

[after dark]

"Scientists" will gain nothing by attacking religion.

Most of these "scientists" can't see the point of traditional religion, because they are sheltered from reality.

These "scientists" and many of the passionate attackers of traditional religion who post here would get religion fast if they were forced to live in the real world.