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Posted on 06/21/2006 8:33:46 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: DungeonMaster
Who exactly decides what is and isn't a scientific theory? Macroevolution should only be a hypothesis, not a theory. The scientific method cannot be applied to it (nor can it to Creationism).
To: Dumpster Baby
Dumpster Baby: The whole concept of provability prevents me from being able to blindly accept celestial magic and the Poof Theory about how the whole universe got here 6000 years ago. Dungeon Master: So do you accept the Big Bang theory?
Dumpster Baby: bla bla bla yes bla bla bla.
I rest my case.
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posted on
06/21/2006 9:44:20 AM PDT
by
DungeonMaster
(More and more churches are nada scriptura.)
To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Who exactly decides what is and isn't a scientific theory? The holy church of the scientific community.
Macroevolution should only be a hypothesis, not a theory. The scientific method cannot be applied to it (nor can it to Creationism).
The holy church of the scientific community says that spending billions of dollars to prove something passes the test of being "scientific method".
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posted on
06/21/2006 9:46:53 AM PDT
by
DungeonMaster
(More and more churches are nada scriptura.)
To: MineralMan
"Don't ask me what I think of you.
I might not give the answer that you want me to..."
LOL
As long as you weren't bummin' my load.
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posted on
06/21/2006 9:47:01 AM PDT
by
stormer
(Get your bachelors, masters, or doctorate now at home in your spare time!)
To: PatrickHenry
These "scientists" are leftists. Notice how worried they are about the environment. They are hoping to exploit Darwin's theory to destroy fundamentalist Christian schools and fundamentalist Christian churches. They are blatantly misusing science. Any real conservative, whither you believe Darwin's theory or not, should be able to see through this nonsense. These people are not trying to spread scientific knowledge. They are trying to destroy one of the last bastions of traditional western values. These "scientists" are evil people who have been educated beyond their abilities.
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posted on
06/21/2006 9:47:28 AM PDT
by
after dark
(I love hateful people. They help me unload karmic debt.)
To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Don't be absurd. Science (and Western Civilization, etc.) can progress with or without macroevolutionary dogma. It can't. As soon as we agree that facts and evidence don't matter, then there is no science. Not a good situation for a technological society.
When your computer crashes, do you want someone to come and read Bible verses to it, then if it isn't fixed, to leave with a recommendation that you be excommunicated for being a non-believer?
Also, creationists can end the evolution debate any time they want. Produce a billion year old human fossil. Or any billion year old fossil mammal. They've been at this for 150 years and haven't succeeded yet.
To: js1138
Argument Ad baculum.My respected FR friend, how I wish you knew the kindness and gentleness of the Creator.
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posted on
06/21/2006 9:48:03 AM PDT
by
Obadiah
(The beatings will continue until morale improves.)
To: stormer
"As long as you weren't bummin' my load.
"
Oh, Well.
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posted on
06/21/2006 9:48:11 AM PDT
by
MineralMan
(non-evangelical atheist)
To: MineralMan
Cellular life is extremely complex. That chemicals would randomly combine to form a single cell lifeform, is highly improbable. Also, the hypothesis of the Big Bang calls for the universe to have expanded faster than c. Currently, that flys in the face of general relativity, MineralMan wall .
To: Obadiah; js1138
See js? It's really argument ad nauseum.
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posted on
06/21/2006 9:51:09 AM PDT
by
stormer
(Get your bachelors, masters, or doctorate now at home in your spare time!)
To: Jedi Master Pikachu
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posted on
06/21/2006 9:51:11 AM PDT
by
RadioAstronomer
(Senior member of Darwin Central)
To: Obadiah
One would never guess from observing those who claim to serve.
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posted on
06/21/2006 9:52:01 AM PDT
by
js1138
(Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
To: after dark
These "scientists" are leftistsDo you actually know a scientist?
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posted on
06/21/2006 9:52:05 AM PDT
by
RadioAstronomer
(Senior member of Darwin Central)
To: Jedi Master Pikachu
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Leaving our humanity to progress by itself, the Elohim nevertheless maintained contact with us via prophets including Buddha, Moses, Mohammed, etc., all specially chosen and educated by them. The role of the prophets was to progressively educate humanity through the Messages they taught, each adapted to the culture and level of understanding at the time. They were also to leave traces of the Elohim so that we would be able to recognize them as our Creators and fellow human beings when we had advanced enough scientifically to understand them. Jesus, whose father was an Eloha, was given the task of spreading these messages throughout the world in preparation for this crucial time in which we are now privileged to live: the predicted Age Of Revelation.
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posted on
06/21/2006 9:52:14 AM PDT
by
DoctorMichael
(A wall first. A wall now.)
To: ml1954
Evolutions have also made some absurd comments on this thread so far.
To: RadioAstronomer
Why are defending this tripe?Since when was it scientific to attack religions which are not affiliated with?
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posted on
06/21/2006 9:54:38 AM PDT
by
after dark
(I love hateful people. They help me unload karmic debt.)
To: DoctorMichael
"Who's with me?"
I am! (If you'll tell me where I can get one of those rigs and how I can make my hair do that.)
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posted on
06/21/2006 9:54:58 AM PDT
by
stormer
(Get your bachelors, masters, or doctorate now at home in your spare time!)
To: Filo
Science can go on with or without an agreed upon model of how the Universe, the Earth, and life formed.
To: Obadiah
If you are asking me to cite chapter and verse then my reply is that the whole Bible points out the folly of evolution and I would ask if you have taken the time to read the Bible? However, Genesis chapter one and two is a good starting point. Hebrews chapter 9 verse 27 might also be considered.
It doesn't say anything about evolution there.
One cannot come to eternal salvation apart from having a personal relationship with the Creator in this life. Those are word not of condemnation, but are words of hope!
You seem to assume that being pro-evolution means that someone cannot have 'a personal relationship with the Creator in this life'. Who told you that? A great many devout religious leaders have said otherwise.
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posted on
06/21/2006 9:55:59 AM PDT
by
ml1954
(NOT the BANNED disruptive troll who was seen frequently on CREVO threads.)
To: js1138
One would never guess from observing those who claim to serve.Guilty as charged.
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posted on
06/21/2006 9:56:22 AM PDT
by
Obadiah
(The beatings will continue until morale improves.)
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