Evolution: World science academies fight back against creationists

PhysOrg.com ^ | 21 June 2006 | Staff

[Obadiah]

And that 'guarantee' you speak of...by what authority do you 'guarantee'?
By the authority of my Father.

You really have no idea what you are talking about, do you?
Yeah, that's the same thing my wife keeps telling me.

You just wanted to jump up on your soap box and condemn passers by, didn't you?
Nah, they told me to be nice. Besides, the One who is greater than I came not to condemn, and neither do I.

[furball4paws]

If you hopes to know, then you have to have your eyes open:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1343600/posts

[GrandEagle]

Yes, that's far more believable.
To some, yes; to some, no.
Your point is well taken.

It usually depends on what belief that one starts out with. That usually determines how the evidence is interpreted.

Cordially,
GE

[RadioAstronomer]

The purpose of Creationism/IDism is to destroy and discredit this very website, the Conservative Movement and ultimately Western Civilization.

But they will continue to blithely prattle their dreck in their self-imposed ignorance. What is worse is they seem to revel about their ignorance. Hold it up like it's a trophy or some such. Sad.

[RightWhale]

There is another problem in science. Some say that science is public, that is, that it takes two to make a measurement of the speed of light, but it is actually ultimately private. Every scientific measurement has to be done by one scientist or it must be questioned. Who will take up the challenge of the relativists since Ives and Bridgman are gone?

[ml1954]

Never seen so many inane comments at the beginning of a thread.

I noticed that too. Posts 3 thru 8 are from creationists with nothing of substance to say. It must be a holiday somewhere in creationistland.

[phantomworker]

Never seen so many inane comments at the beginning of a thread

Kind of what I was thinking.

[Coyoteman]

I retract my sarcasm (believe it or not it was tossed out with good natured intent). It just caught me at a weak moment.

This is a topic that causes very heated discussion between good people that quickly degrades into childish name calling, etc. I do apologize for my part in setting the wrong tone.

Cordially (holding out the olive branch)
GE

Can't say it any better than that. Thanks.

But as for retracting sarcasm, maybe you don't have to go that far. I like good sarcasm myself. What I was commenting on were the truly inane comments, of which there were several.

[Filo]

The "resurgence" of creationism is akin to a "dead cat bounce" - in the end it'll mean nothing as science, intelligence and observation and reality win out.

[RadioAstronomer]

I hope so. But I have my doubts at times.

[Skooz]

Everybody be nice.

First time for everything, I suppose. I admire your optimism.

[MineralMan]

Well, thanks for recognizing that the typical creation story is unbelievable. The thing about your orginal statement wasn't that it's unbelievable, but that it's a mis-statement of what science currently theorizes that happened. The actual explanation makes more sense than your distortion of it.

On the other hand, my description of the creation story is pretty much exactly what creationists say happened.

The bottom line is that every religion of Mankind has some sort of creation story. They're all pretty different, really, but all involve some kind of sudden, magical appearance of things.

In a way, so does the scientific explanation, given the Big Bang theory and the like.

Both are relatively incomprehensible to the average person. However, the scientific side gets less incomprehensible, the more you study it. The creation side stays just as unbelievable.

[DoctorMichael]

.....Sad......

Very sad.

I'm going to say a prayer for their poor misguided souls. Hopefully they won't do anymore damage than they've already done.

[RightWhale]

You can't even measure the one-way speed of light. How can you say anything about science?

[RadioAstronomer]

I was way too harsh in my earlier post.

My apologies to all!

[ml1954]

By the authority of my Father.

And where does he say "every evolutionist will at some point personally see the folly of evolution." Please be specific.

Besides, the One who is greater than I came not to condemn, and neither do I.

Really, then what does "I just hope that their realization happens on this side of their breath." It sounds to me like a warning that you will be condemned unless you "see the folly of evolution" before your death. If that's not what you meant, then what did you mean?

[Filo]

I hope so. But I have my doubts at times.

I do too, but pretty much only when I visit here.

I'm sure if I spent most of my time visiting KOS or DU I'd have no hope for the future of the United States, but by expanding my horizons and truly trying to understand things I've come to the conclusion that they are the lunatic fringe and a small minority.

There are a vocal bunch of creationists/IDers here, but even if they don't represent the minority of Freepers, they are a tiny minority of people in general.

Such is life. :)

[Hoplite]

In before Stalin!	Damn you!	?!?

[Obadiah]

You can't even measure the one-way speed of light. How can you say anything about science?

True, true. But I do know who created that light that can be measured. Does that count?

[RightWhale]

Science is like revelation in that it is ultimately private rather than public.