It they're jobs "Americans won't do" or "Americans are too stupid to do", that's one thing, reducing labor costs is another.
'H-1B Only' Job Ad Posters Accused of Discrimination
The Programmers Guild, an IT worker interest group, has filed 300 discrimination complaints so far this year against companies alleged to have posted "H-1B visa holders only" ads on job boards.
The house they buy??? Obviously, he doesn't know too many H1B visa workers. They don't buy houses, they live in apartments, or rental houses, and pack them with their friends/or family that are also here on H1B status. They send the money back home, just like the Mexican immigrants do.
After all, those who PAY TAXES AND VOTE FOUGHT for our country and SERVED in the military services of this country are just TOO STUPID TO COMPETE WITH THOSE THIRD WORLD GENIUS'!!
sarcasm off!!
YES THE SAME CRUMMY THIRD WORLDERS WHO HATE AMERICA AND WOULD KICK US OUT OF OWN COUNTRY IF THEY COULD!!
I used to work as a desktop support/network engineer for a large Wall Street brokerage firm. When downsizing occurred during the 2002 recession, the company used that opportunity to release American workers, while retaining foreign workers on the H-1B visa program. When I left, the bulk of engineers remaining were foreigners, which provided the company with cheap, easy to exploit labor.
Qualified American engineers need not apply.
A major reason for the wage disparity is the fact that many H-1B workers are Indian whose standard of living and COL factors are substantially different from those of their American counterparts.
No. They do not drive down the salaries of CEOs.
PING! Of course they do! Only the computer industry has been targeted, and maybe nurses. Target lawyers (who make a lot more per how then software engineers and have a lot less training, in general) and you will see this program ended as fast as a new Air America show.
DUH!!!! Anyone that works in a tech industry knows that the H1B program is nothing more than a scam... Congress sold out the skilled american workers with this fraud the same way open borders sells out unskilled workers.
In other news, water is wet, the Pope is Catholic, and bears poop in the woods. Anybody who's in engineering or IT knows this. It's the worst-kept secret in the industry. My prior employer (a small company) was masterful at paying Indian body shops $50,000 a year to put a $30,000 a year programmer into a $65,000 a year job. Everybody wins except poor Sanjay who's making less money than the assistant manager down at Papa John's...but it's still six times what he'd be making in Bangalore.
I mean, I'm sitting at my job, literally surrounded by hundreds of folks here on H-1Bs, wondering when my contracting company is going to decide that not only are they moving all the coding jobs to Hyderabad, but they really don't even need QA testers like me in the States either and they can do it all by remote control. The joys of things when your company's new boss is a hardcore move-it-to-India-to-stay-competitive guy.
On the upside, I've gotten to watch a lot of World Cup highlights in the breakroom.
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The article is mainly about the electronics sector. I am on an H1B visa and my pay is about 25% more than the average wage for my occupation and about 50% more than the prevailing wage. But then again, I'm a research scientist. I believe the large corporations do follow their standard hiring practices, at least the one I work for, but these guys from India probably never thought to make a counter offer for their proposed salaries. And they are probably right out of school so they would be offered wages with that experience level. That being said, there are some serious abuses in the electronics/software areas that are disgusting - both for the foreign worker and for the treatment of the American worker.
Companies that hire H1-B's as a way to cut costs are a huge problem. I also think the youth of America is to be blamed as well. A degree in Computer Science is just too difficult for the current "me" generation. Their self-absorbance, their need for instant gratification, and their overall laziness appall me.
Just imagine how much more would trickle down if the H-1Bs weren't depressing salaries.
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Excellent!
It's important to remember that the H1B is a 6 year visa (last I checked); so take 65k or 115k and multiply it by 6 to get a rolling number of H1Bs that can be here at any given time.
Note that now, finally, the flood that was opened during the Clinton years is winding down, so the exploiters are frantic to get a new batch of cheap indentured servants.
That's the real kicker about H1B tech workers. They're brought over here at whatever wage, and then *unlike* regular employees they're basically stuck with the employer and client they've signed on with. Any change is cause to go home. So, the employer can insist on long hours, weekends, any conditions they want and the H1B has no choice but to say 'yes.'
If you or I are subjected to those demands, we ask for compensation, expect it to be reflected in our career growth, or get out. The people who hire H1Bs don't have to consider such mundane things as their employees' well-being. In my experience, where I'm able to demand overtime from a client, the H1Bs are on-site 6 days or 7 days a week, well into the evening, but lo and behold their timesheet always reads 40 hours. All those extra hours are free labor to the employer. (Fortunately, my work doing 40 real hours a week is better than their work doing 70 hours a week).
So, even where the base wage is equivalent (I've never seen it) the effective wage is FAR lower than for a U.S. worker because the H1B is indentured and has no choice but to do his master's bidding.