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To: SoothingDave
What about the everyday things you do. How do you know the effects are not substantial enough or are justified to declare yourself free from sin? Maybe you act selfishly or rudely to someone. To you it's no big deal, not "subtstantial." But to that person it could be a contributing factor to something larger.

I don't think any major religion defines "being rude" as a sin.

That's the whole point. Even the smallest failures to live perfectly disturb the world. In ways we often can not predict or know.

I said I was not perfect. I do not consider myself a sinner.

To simply justify oneself by claiming all one's actions are insubstantial or "justified" is self-serving.

You generally agreed with me on substantial and justified. Where am I being self-serving.

349 posted on 06/22/2006 9:41:51 AM PDT by OmahaFields
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To: OmahaFields
I don't think any major religion defines "being rude" as a sin.

Of course they do. Treating people unkindly is sinful. Do unto others, etc.

I said I was not perfect. I do not consider myself a sinner.

Yeah, I get that. I am saying that your definition of sin to only include "substantial" and "unjustified" things is wrong. If you are not perfect, then you have sinned.

It's really that simple.

You generally agreed with me on substantial and justified. Where am I being self-serving.

You are being self-serving in thinking everything you do is either justified or insubstantial in terms of the harm you introduce into the world.

When you accept anything less than perfection as a goal to live up to, you invite rationalization of one's own defects into the "insubstantial" category.

SD

350 posted on 06/22/2006 10:02:46 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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