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To: ichabod1
I was pondering the Creed the other day, and it occurred to me that it was partly responsible for me becoming Catholic. For all my life I had stated "One holy Catholic and Apostolic Church", but I had felt like a hypocrite (literal meaning, less than truthful) because I knew I was NOT a Catholic, no matter how many episcopal excuses were made about "universal" catholicism. Now I'm a Catholic and I state that line proudly...

Well, I'm glad that you have pride in your faith, but the word "catholic" does indeed mean universal. Saying the creed (Apostles or Nicene) with the intention of meaning only the Roman church would mean that you exclude belief that Christ was for all Christian churches, would it not?

224 posted on 06/21/2006 11:11:13 AM PDT by meandog (If I were to draw the odious Islamic prophet Muhammad, he would have horns, a tail, and a pitchfork!)
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To: meandog
Saying the creed (Apostles or Nicene) with the intention of meaning only the Roman church would mean that you exclude belief that Christ was for all Christian churches, would it not?

Nope. We believe that all who are Christian are joined by virtue of their baptism into the one, universal Catholic church. To the extent that their beliefs differ from the Church's teaching this union is imperfect, yet unseverable. There is only one Church.

SD

229 posted on 06/21/2006 11:19:35 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: meandog

We joined an Evangelical Presbyterian Church a few years ago. It’s a great church biblically sound, but growing up in a Pentecostal Church the one thing that bothered me about the EPC was their repeating the Apostles Creed. The two things I did not agree with is, 1) Christ went to hell after his crucifixion when I believe the proper location was Abraham,s Bosom, and the other disagreement I had was 2) the mention of the catholic church when I am not catholic, nor is the Presbyterian Church. I was bothered by this for some time. I’m not sure what the true belief is among the Presbyterians on the first one, but as for the term catholic church I wrote a letter to the Bible Answer man program and received a letter that explained that it is a small “c” and represents the Church of Christ, not any particular denomination such as the Roman Catholic Church.


234 posted on 06/21/2006 11:29:44 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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