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To: wideawake

Please then explain to me this:

"That is why liberals liberals are Godless.
They are the biggest Bush-haters haters on the planet."

What does one have to do with the other? Your argument is that any Christian cannot hate and or dislike (I'm not a big fan of the word hate) GWB and still be a Christian. That's laughable.

Carter's a christian (so he says), I'm not a big fan of his. Does that mean anything?

You paint a very broad brush.


71 posted on 06/20/2006 11:49:18 AM PDT by JNL
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To: JNL

He's not the only one who paints with a broad brush. Ann Coulter does, too.

So why did I buy her book? I think she's an idiot on the subject of religion (doesn't really know what the word means and refuses to talk about it) and a double-plus idiot on the subject of evolution (thinks that it's infallible when there are thousands and thousands of predictive tests it has passed and she knows nothing of any of them).

I'll tell you why I bought her book. Because she may be an idiot on some things, but on the one big subject of FREE SPEECH there is no one currently writing or speaking who so clearly defines the need for it, and the attacks on it, in America, particularly with regard to the MSM.

The fact that I disagree with her so strongly on many things makes it ENJOYABLE for me to support her by buying her book, just because she's such a freaking genius on the subject of free speech.

No one says FREE SPEECH better than Ann. I bought this book, and I'll buy her next one too.


73 posted on 06/20/2006 12:00:22 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: JNL
What does one have to do with the other?

You'll have to ask the person who actually posted those two sentences what he imagines the relationship to be.

Your argument is that any Christian cannot hate and or dislike (I'm not a big fan of the word hate) GWB and still be a Christian. That's laughable.

That's hardly laughable - it follows quite logically.

What does the word "Christian" mean? Presumably a believer in and follower of Christ - someone who is interested in what Jesus taught and who is interested in putting that teaching into practice.

In John's Gospel, Jesus speaks in great detail about what He will do for his disciples and also about how He expects his disciples to behave.

As I pointed out above, He describes the way they are to treat one another with exact specificity: the disciples are to love one another as He himself loved his disciples.

It stands to reason, then, that if someone hates a fellow disciple they are therefore opting out of their discipleship by directly disobeying Jesus' clear instructions.

I don't think Jesus' words could be any clearer or more eloquent: "Love one another as I have loved you."

Taking that perspicuous statement seriously is hardly "laughable" - it would be laughable to claim that a Christian can ignore Jesus' clear words because they conflict with whatever 21st century American political party talking points they happen to favor.

Carter's a christian (so he says), I'm not a big fan of his. Does that mean anything?

Again, whether or not you or I are fans of President Carter is meaningless. What is meaningful are objective facts.

President Carter is not a Christian because he, as a matter of public record, supports the murder of unborn children.

What he claims or how I feel about what he claims or does is immaterial: the facts of the case speak for themselves. President Carter has emphatically and categorically rejected Christian morality.

You paint a very broad brush.

"Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Further:

"Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them."

Perhaps I am using a broad brush, but it's not my paint and it's not my brush.

Christianity is serious business - it's not a hobby for dilettantes.

75 posted on 06/20/2006 12:12:05 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: JNL
""That is why liberals liberals are Godless. They are the biggest Bush-haters haters on the planet." "

"What does one have to do with the other? "

I will explain it very slowly , so even your mind can understand it.
If your heart is constantly full of hate, and you your entire life consists of spewing out vile hate against anyone (including calls for their death), you simply cannot be a Christian.
It's that simple.
97 posted on 06/20/2006 4:31:26 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: JNL
"Your argument is that any Christian cannot hate and or dislike (I'm not a big fan of the word hate) GWB and still be a Christian. That's laughable."

The word I used was HATE.
The Bush Derangement Syndrome loony left in America are simply full of visceral HATE towards George Bush.
Ergo the rabid left in America are NOT Christians.
Ann Coulter was exactly right.
You suckers ARE Godless.
98 posted on 06/20/2006 4:37:54 PM PDT by Jameison
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