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Teen, Mom Sue MySpace.com for $30 Million
American-Statesman ^ | June 20, 2006 | Claire Osborn

Posted on 06/19/2006 8:52:02 PM PDT by plan2succeed.org

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This article may be the very model raped and molested children can use to sue the American Library Association for the same thing, failure to protect minors from adult sexual predators. Only in the ALA's case, it may be worse, worthy of punitive damages, where the ALA may be skirting the law and the US Supreme Court case the ALA itself lost in 2003, namely, US v. ALA, on the very issue of protecting children from harm.

SafeLibraries.org will be watching this case closely. Please contact us if you have information we should consider as we bring this to the attention of the public, the very thing the ALA's Orwellian "Office For Intellectual Freedom" seems to be working for decades to suppress.

SafeLibraries.org - Are Children Safe in Public Libraries?

SafeLibraries. org - Are Children Safe in Public Libraries?

1 posted on 06/19/2006 8:52:06 PM PDT by plan2succeed.org
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To: plan2succeed.org

Personal responsibility no longer means a damned thing does it?


2 posted on 06/19/2006 8:56:15 PM PDT by A Troop 1-14 Cav ("We love immigrants in Utah. We don't make distinctions between legal and illegal." Chris Cannon)
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("If you interact on MySpace, you are safe, but if a 13-year-old or 14-year-old goes out in person and meets someone she doesn't know, that is always an unsafe endeavor," Gelman said.)



The most intelligent thing said in the entire article.


3 posted on 06/19/2006 8:58:07 PM PDT by A Troop 1-14 Cav ("We love immigrants in Utah. We don't make distinctions between legal and illegal." Chris Cannon)
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I knew this was going to happen sooner or later.

This lawsuit should not only be dismissed, but the judge should tell the girl and her sleazy lawyer to get bent.

4 posted on 06/19/2006 8:58:50 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: plan2succeed.org

My dog got hit by a car; so can I sue GM?
My house burned down, can I sue General Electric?
I said something derogatory about 'Hawgs' in a Biker Bar, and got my butt handed to me, can I sue Harley Davidson?

When bad things happen, why does a person feel that someone owes them money? How about suing the perp?

There comes a time when personal responsibility has to come into play. It started with allowing the bartenders to be sued for selling a drunk driver a beer. Somehow, the drunk was not responsible for the alcohol he was purchasing.

Can I sue Microsoft because the PC that hosted MySpace was running Win2K3 Server?


5 posted on 06/19/2006 8:59:49 PM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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Personal responsibility no longer means a damned thing does it?

Thanks to the civil courts, no it doesn't.

6 posted on 06/19/2006 8:59:51 PM PDT by dc27
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(This lawsuit should not only be dismissed, but the judge should tell the girl and her sleazy lawyer to get bent.)



And since her mother is apparantly a vaccuous waste, the judge should tell her not to trust strangers.


7 posted on 06/19/2006 9:01:18 PM PDT by A Troop 1-14 Cav ("We love immigrants in Utah. We don't make distinctions between legal and illegal." Chris Cannon)
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This article may be the very model raped and molested children can use to sue the American Library Association for the same thing, failure to protect minors from adult sexual predators.

As much as I detest the library libertarians who fight for the "right" of children to view pornography, I hope this suit fails because it places responsibility for the actions of a minor in the hands of a third party rather than the parent. I would rather not get the right people through a bad ruling.

8 posted on 06/19/2006 9:13:55 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (New popular baby names for daughters of liberals: Fallujah, Haditha, Murtha)
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Why is this posted in "Religion"?


9 posted on 06/19/2006 9:14:24 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (New popular baby names for daughters of liberals: Fallujah, Haditha, Murtha)
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My answer to the question of "are children safe in public libraries?" is yes, when you are either with them or keep them with someone you would trust with your life.


10 posted on 06/19/2006 9:18:56 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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No, he should charge the mother with neglect and sentence her to 2 years public service, following her daughter!!


11 posted on 06/19/2006 9:20:16 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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2 years public service, following her daughter!!

The kid was 13 assume shes 14 now...4 years following her daughter.

12 posted on 06/19/2006 9:24:32 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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I thought the article said she was 16. My bad. Yes four years.


13 posted on 06/19/2006 9:27:02 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: L.N. Smithee

Really? Religion? I don't recall selecting that. It has nothing to do with religion.


14 posted on 06/19/2006 9:39:15 PM PDT by plan2succeed.org (www.plan2succeed.org)
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Sorry, you are incorrect. Being with your children is not enough where the libraries allow unfiltered access to the Internet. For example, here's a lady in a library with her grandchildren where one went to the bathroom and her life was changed forever: 8 Year Old Girl Attacked in a Public Library. I can't blame her for this, can you?

This is in part the very reason why SafeLibraries.org is in existence -- to counteract the pervasive effects of decades worth of misinformation from the ALA.
15 posted on 06/19/2006 9:49:54 PM PDT by plan2succeed.org (www.plan2succeed.org)
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Honestly, a potential case against the ALA would be similar to but not the same as this MySpace suit. The facts are a lot different as well. Parental supervision, as you suggest, is not the be all and end all, else why would there be CIPA (Children's Internet Protection Act) and US v. ALA (finding CIPA constitutional) in the first place?
16 posted on 06/19/2006 9:56:21 PM PDT by plan2succeed.org (www.plan2succeed.org)
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...can use to sue the American Library Association for the same thing...

People who push personal responsibility off onto others make me sick. I am surprised to see such a liberal position as yours being tolerated here on a Conservative web site. Try the DU. You will get more sympathy.

17 posted on 06/19/2006 10:12:42 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Is tractus pro pensio.)
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You said, I hope this suit fails because it places responsibility for the actions of a minor in the hands of a third party rather than the parent.

You are missing the point. The actions of the minor have nothing to do with the minor being victimized where a public library patron is able to access the unfiltered Internet, left unfiltered despite the law at the direction of the ALA, then go on to attack the child.

Would you want this for your children? Is defending the ALA's agenda to sexualize children worth it, and I'm not saying that's what you are doing, by claiming it's the parent's fault? Was CIPA and US v. ALA a total waste because ultimately the parents are at fault for going to a public library?
18 posted on 06/19/2006 10:25:36 PM PDT by plan2succeed.org (www.plan2succeed.org)
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For example, here's a lady in a library with her grandchildren where one went to the bathroom and her life was changed forever: 8 Year Old Girl Attacked in a Public Library.

Where does regulating and monitoring Internet websites fit into this? The homeless man who tried to the rape the girl received a lengthy prison sentence. In other words, the law worked. Why try to exploit a sad situation to pursue an agenda, which you obviously have?

19 posted on 06/19/2006 10:33:37 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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The actions of the minor have nothing to do with the minor being victimized where a public library patron is able to access the unfiltered Internet, left unfiltered despite the law at the direction of the ALA, then go on to attack the child.

The homeless man is in prison for his crime. What does Internet access in libraries have to do with this case?

20 posted on 06/19/2006 10:36:15 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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