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N.Y. Cops In Pa. Fireworks Stakeouts (NYPD seizes cars of NYers who legally buy fireworks in PA)
NY Post ^ | June 19, 2006 | Larry Celona And Dan Mangan

Posted on 06/19/2006 8:10:58 AM PDT by dead

Undercover NYPD cops are cracking down on New York buyers of illegal fireworks by staking out Pennsylvania vendors - and, for the first time, seizing the cars of people who travel out of state to get their Fourth of July fireworks.

So far this year, cops have seized 30 vehicles belonging to New York ers as they return home from Penn sylvania after buying fireworks there, and have arrested 60 people, according to a report in New York magazine this week. The report says undercover cops have been watching Pennsylvania fireworks vendors and looking for New York license plates. The heightened enforcement comes after Mayor Bloomberg's law-enforcement officials noted an increase in illegal fireworks set off during last Fourth of July on Staten Island.

One Pennsylvania merchant, Bill Weimer, told the magazine that he asks New York police to quit taking pictures of his customer's license plates and leave his stores but that they go across the street and "give off that New York cop attitude."

In an odd twist, New Yorkers - who are barred from possessing fireworks in their home state - can legally buy them in Pennsylvania, which prohibits sales only to its own residents.

A law-enforcement source told The Post yesterday that the NYPD also has confiscated hundreds more cases of fireworks this year compared with last year. More than 1,000 cases have been seized to date, as against 150 last year...

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To: dead

maybe Bloomberg should sue God for lighning,too.
It causes a lot of fires.


121 posted on 06/19/2006 10:35:36 AM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!)
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To: roaddog727

"Doesn't the NYPD have anything better to do than bust people for fireworks? Like cracking down on Gang violence and conducting counter-terrorist watches?"

Cops do what is safe and profitable. Arresting John Q. Public, fireworks consumer, and taking his car is safe and profitable. Going after gangs and terrorists is not.


122 posted on 06/19/2006 10:36:09 AM PDT by vigilo (Everything I needed to know about George Bush and the Republican Party I learned from CFR.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Take your pick, we might need truck loads.


123 posted on 06/19/2006 10:40:32 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: CT-Freeper

Where, exactly, in Outer Bingolia? I lived in Endicott for 9 years.


124 posted on 06/19/2006 10:44:52 AM PDT by MortMan (Trains stop at train stations. On my desk is a workstation...)
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To: gridlock
Actually, all they have to do is stop you when you cross the bridge into New York. They can generate a list of license plates from the photographs, fax it home, and when your plate number comes up on EZ Pass, deploy the cruiser to pick you up. A quick search of the car (legal, because the surveillance established probable cause), and you're stone cold busted.

Note to New Yorkers: Drive to PA in two cars. Have one go to the fireworks tent, buy the stuff, let the fireworks police take down the plate number, and then transfer the booty to the second car parked a mile or so down the road.

It will drive them nuts.

125 posted on 06/19/2006 10:47:26 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: dead

Glad to see NY is safe from fireworks....but the illegal guns and drugs keep pouring across the border...good job, Mike,dumbass.


126 posted on 06/19/2006 10:52:31 AM PDT by SAMS (Nobody loves a soldier until the enemy is at the gate; Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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To: dead

bump for later


127 posted on 06/19/2006 10:54:44 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: dead

S C R E W Y O U
BLOOMBERG!


128 posted on 06/19/2006 10:59:00 AM PDT by rvoitier ("And if talk is cheap anywhere, perhaps it is cheapest, quite frankly, in the Congress." Vitter(R-La)
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To: MortMan
Where, exactly, in Outer Bingolia? I lived in Endicott for 9 years.

I was born and raised in Vestal. Lived there my whole life (save for being away for college and grad school) up until last summer when I moved here to CT after getting married.

129 posted on 06/19/2006 11:07:11 AM PDT by CT-Freeper (Said the perpetually dejected Mets fan.)
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To: Ditto
Note to New Yorkers: Drive to PA in two cars. Have one go to the fireworks tent, buy the stuff, let the fireworks police take down the plate number, and then transfer the booty to the second car parked a mile or so down the road.

It will drive them nuts.

Yes, it surely would. Cops *hate* to be outfoxed. Better be wary of them expanding the surveillance area after a few empty target cars are stopped. If an officer witnesses the "hand-off", the cops could scoop up both vehicles.

130 posted on 06/19/2006 11:13:52 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Free Travis!)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

We weren't old enought to drive into NYC and we bought enought to sell to others. Boxes of fireworks on the subway and train would have even caught the attention of NYC cops way back then.


131 posted on 06/19/2006 11:32:46 AM PDT by razorback-bert (Kooks For Kinky)
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To: Blue Jays
We're talking about a solution in need of a problem here. How many people are genuinely affected in a negative nature by backyard fireworks?

Define genuinely...

That would be like Iowa State Troopers being deployed to Indiana to find some firecrackers in someone's trunk. Not worth the $$$$$.

Look, it's called deterrent. If people start getting busted for breaking the law, may they'll stop doing it shamelessly and the problem will subside.

I will be out of town this July 4th, and everything here is extremely dry. I can't imagine what may happen when the idiots let loose in my neighborhood.

132 posted on 06/19/2006 11:40:31 AM PDT by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: Charles Martel
Evidently the "War on Drugs" can easily morph into the "War on Fireworks". I wonder what's next of the contraband list that'll trigger vehicle seizures.

Ironically, that 'war' seems largely an invisible one, at least in my half of the state. I should say some key arrests were made lately in the heroin traffic through the western PA area, but it would seem that should be the higher priority over busting a couple of guys for buying fireworks.

133 posted on 06/19/2006 11:41:01 AM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: fortunecookie
I wonder what's next of the contraband list that'll trigger vehicle seizures.

Cigarettes followed by "untaxed goods purchased in other states".

134 posted on 06/19/2006 11:46:56 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: ASOC
Well, I live in a house a minimum of 2000 miles from yours, in a state where fireworks are legal. Relax. You will have plenty of time to fill the fire buckets if we manage to start a fire big enough to reach your home.

Keep your rules for your town, we'll keep ours for ours, thanks!

135 posted on 06/19/2006 12:11:35 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: cspackler
Hi cspackler-

I would imagine the risk of fire caused by wayward bottle rockets is somewhat similar to risk of fire caused by improperly-tossed cigarette butts. In the case of ciggies, we're talking about billions of instances each year in this country alone. Police resources should be used for situations that truly deserve attention. Firecrackers, bottle rockets, Roman Candles, sparklers, and the occasional M-80 wouldn't be sufficient reason to send police on out-of-state expeditions for most residents with their eye on the bottomline.

By example, I'd be furious if police employed by my state were hundreds of miles away dedicated to this nonsense.

~ Blue Jays ~

136 posted on 06/19/2006 12:40:51 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: The Red Zone

Once I went to a legal fireworks celebration in NY. It was the best display I've ever been to. When I left, I actually had a hole burned in my clothes.

Maybe it would be a good idea to make fireworks legal and just tax the heck out of them. Heck, it would give Bloomberg something else to tax besides cigarettes, beer and gas.

That would make him happy.


137 posted on 06/19/2006 1:19:40 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: All
The way it was, Once Upon a Time...

For my next post, I'll see if I can find the text to Jean Shepherd's Ludlow Kissell and the Dago Bomb That Struck Back.

138 posted on 06/19/2006 1:49:20 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Free Travis!)
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To: Sam Cree

We used to tie M-80's to rocks, throw in the pond. The concussion would stun the baitfish and they would float belly up. We netted them and when they came around used them for bass and pickeral bait.


139 posted on 06/19/2006 4:35:29 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: dead
The way around this is so easy, and could be fun. If you were to go to PA to get fireworks, have a friend meet you in PA, somewhere near but too near where you are buying. You first go and purchase your fireworks. Drive away. Meet your friend. Put your purchases in HIS vehicle. Then you split up. Your friend drives back to NY a while later, and you head directly home, passing the fireworks place again. (or even going inside to "look around" but don't buy anything.) When you return to NY, they search your car, and find nothing. It screws with their heads and wastes their time.

Of course, this is just put out there for purposes of discussion. I wouldn't recommend breaking the law, you see.

140 posted on 06/19/2006 6:20:40 PM PDT by Nik Naym
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