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To: Velveeta

There are probably about 100,000 al-Mashhadanis in Iraq. It isn't a surname, it's the name of the place where they're from -- like Saddam Hussein al-Tikriti...


19 posted on 06/19/2006 6:34:18 AM PDT by propertius
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To: propertius

But this Ali al-Mashhadani is a Reuters reporter/cameraman.


20 posted on 06/19/2006 6:48:53 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: propertius
"difficult to tell unless we have his surname..."

Abdul-Rahman Al-Mashhadani

Don't we have his given name, his patronymic and his family name?

What are we missing?

I'm no expert, but I believe that is probably his official name. Or as official as they tend to get. It's the same name he has used twice before in the press. Such as here:

Iraq plays down suggestion of voter fraud

By Omar al-Ibadi
Reuters
Tuesday, October 18, 2005

Referendum observers also reported some problems in Baghdad, where the volatile communal mix made results hard to predict.

Abdul Rahman al-Mashhadani, head of the Hamourabi Human Rights Organization, said the recent agreement by Shi'ite and Kurdish leaders to consider amendments to the constitution to appease Sunni groups may have helped reduce the "No" vote.

"I think there will be some kind of political deal to finalize a 'Yes' majority, with agreements and compromises among the political groups," he said.

http://www.epic-usa.org/Default.aspx?tabid=1959

"There are probably about 100,000 al-Mashhadanis in Iraq. It isn't a surname, it's the name of the place where they're from -- like Saddam Hussein al-Tikriti..."

From what I can tell Arabs don't really think in terms of surnames per se, except as to meet Western conventions. And their family name can very well be an adaptation of a tribe or regional name. (I noted this back in the article on the Reuters reporter.)

All of this is to say that this is probably this gentleman's "official" name and the way it would be listed in official pronouncements.  Such as here, where a gentleman teaching economics is listed at a university in Jordan:

Philadelphia University | Department of Business Administration
http://www.philadelphia.edu.jo/adfin-ba-mem.asp

If so, this is his photo:

But, again, this might not be the same guy. Especially since this school is in Jordan. But it could very well be. He teaches in a similar field. He's about the same age as Thabet, who is 43.

But mostly I brought it up to give an example of "Abdul-Rahman Al-Mashhadani" being a full name. At least good enough for a university listing.

25 posted on 06/19/2006 8:54:28 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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