Does The Chairman Of Hammurabi Write Poetry? -- Major Haditha Source

Sweetness & Light ^ | June 19, 2006 | N/A

[Enchante]

"Abdul-Rahman Al-Mashhadani Intresting to note number 46 on the Iraqi Most Wanted list was a Bathist big wig named Al-Mashadani. Relative perhaps?"

Wow, good catch!! That could well be significant. It must be expected that a number of the people on that Most Wanted list had/have networks of relative and friends who are working on behalf of the terrorist-jihadists in various ways, some actually making and planting IEDs, etc. but others such as aspiring "journalists" and "human rights" propagandists who help the world's MSM with their efforts to report favorably on the jihadists and unfavorably on US troops.

[Sam Hill]

I don't think they are the same guy. Ali versus Abdul. I posted about it here:

Haditha Reporter Was Jailed By US, Shares Name With Source | Sweetness & Light
http://www.sweetness-light.com/archive/reporter-jailed-by-us-broke-haditha-has-familiar-name

But I suspect they might be related.

[SamAdams_Lite]

"There once was a girl from Haditha.."

OOPs, better not go there or CAIR will pitch a fit.

[Sam Hill]

"It's a legitimate question, of course! But the statement implied that it's suspicious for a human-rights monitor to remain anonymous."

I thought you were joking at first. Name another human rights group that has an anonymous "Chairman."

It doesn't work that way. Human rights monitors depend upon publicity for their power. You can't do that hiding under your bed.

BTW, this fellow has talked to the media before, as noted in the article, about election results. And he has let it be known where he lectures.

Also, in case you missed it, Hammurabi is often described as a Sunni organization. I don't think he would have much to worry about, at least in Haditha.

Lastly, his co-member, Thabet, hasn't been shy at all about having his picture taken.

[Sam Hill]

"difficult to tell unless we have his surname..."

Abdul-Rahman Al-Mashhadani

Don't we have his given name, his patronymic and his family name?

What are we missing?

I'm no expert, but I believe that is probably his official name. Or as official as they tend to get. It's the same name he has used twice before in the press. Such as here:

Iraq plays down suggestion of voter fraud

By Omar al-Ibadi
Reuters
Tuesday, October 18, 2005

Referendum observers also reported some problems in Baghdad, where the volatile communal mix made results hard to predict.

Abdul Rahman al-Mashhadani, head of the Hamourabi Human Rights Organization, said the recent agreement by Shi'ite and Kurdish leaders to consider amendments to the constitution to appease Sunni groups may have helped reduce the "No" vote.

"I think there will be some kind of political deal to finalize a 'Yes' majority, with agreements and compromises among the political groups," he said.

http://www.epic-usa.org/Default.aspx?tabid=1959

"There are probably about 100,000 al-Mashhadanis in Iraq. It isn't a surname, it's the name of the place where they're from -- like Saddam Hussein al-Tikriti..."

From what I can tell Arabs don't really think in terms of surnames per se, except as to meet Western conventions. And their family name can very well be an adaptation of a tribe or regional name. (I noted this back in the article on the Reuters reporter.)

All of this is to say that this is probably this gentleman's "official" name and the way it would be listed in official pronouncements.  Such as here, where a gentleman teaching economics is listed at a university in Jordan:

Philadelphia University | Department of Business Administration
http://www.philadelphia.edu.jo/adfin-ba-mem.asp

If so, this is his photo:

But, again, this might not be the same guy. Especially since this school is in Jordan. But it could very well be. He teaches in a similar field. He's about the same age as Thabet, who is 43.

But mostly I brought it up to give an example of "Abdul-Rahman Al-Mashhadani" being a full name. At least good enough for a university listing.

[Sam Hill]

Update!

While we are speculating I might as well post this brief bio from a gentleman with the same name as our hero who is listed as an assistant professor at the Philadelphia University in Jordan:

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At first I was skeptical that this was the same gentleman. But then I noticed his work history was at the Al Rasheed Bank. That is the second largest bank in Iraq. It is located in Baghdad.

His age, 42, also tracks with the Hammurabi co-member Thaer Thabit al-Hadithi , who is a "youthful" 43.

And they seem to be similar types. Thabit was an administrator at the Haditha hospital before he founded Hammurabi 16 months ago.

I strongly suspect this is our man.

[Sam Hill]

Here is the missing image from the post above:

[Sam Hill]

"Intresting to note number 46 on the Iraqi Most Wanted list was a Bathist big wig named Al-Mashadani. Relative perhaps?"

It's very possible, I think. He might even be the family member that the lawyer was referring to, who is currently in prison:

Iraqi Deck of Cards
http://www.angelfire.com/ultra/terroristscorecard/IraqDeck.html

If we're talking about the same person, he is listed here as Sayf al-Din al-Mashhadani, BP Chmn & Cmdr BP Militia Muthanna Gov. (BP means Baathist Party)

According to that site he was captured 5/27/03.

Also, he was listed at the 3 of clubs in the mosted wanted deck of cards.

Which might account for the use of Bush as a joker on the "poetry" page.

[FreedomCalls]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_name

[Enchante]

re: the "poetry"

That's the worst "poetry" I have ever seen, even accounting for difficulties of translation. Only when I tried to read some of Jimmy Carter's insipid "poetry" in a bookstore (would never buy it) have I ever seen such a ghastly excuse for "poetry".....

[Sam Hill]

And the message is pretty ugly, too.

If it is the same guy, it's pretty ironic, because he has told the AP that he is against "terrorism."

[Sam Hill]

Thanks, I had seen that. I was mostly relying on this article:

Period Arabic Names and Naming Practices (2nd edition)
http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/arabic-naming2.htm

Which the Wikipedia entry seems to be largely based upon.

[FreedomCalls]

That's a good link. Thanks.

[Sam Hill]

As I was saying:

   

On the left you see the playing card from the Iraqi Deck. On the right the card from the author's "poetry page."

Maybe it's a coincidence. Maybe it isn't.

[propertius]

No, no patronymic. It is rare for an Iraqi to use his full name officially -- he will usually give a shortened version. But there are usually more names if he wanted to give them.

I would say there are thousands of Abdul-Rahman al-Mashadanis in Iraq (and of course the name can be spelled in numerous different ways too)

[Sam Hill]

"I would say there are thousands of Abdul-Rahman al-Mashadanis in Iraq..."

I think that is a gross exaggeration. There are hardly three who show up on the internet.

And the other overlaps make this much more likely than unlikely.

[shield]

Good info...thanks.

[propertius]

Why on earth would more than 0.1 percent of Abdul-Rahman al-Mashadanis show up on the internet?

The vast majority are probably illiterate. I've probably met three Abdul-Rahman al-Mashadanis myself. They weren't the type to post on internet message boards...

[Sam Hill]

Thanks for helping to make the case that these guys are likelly to be one and the same.

[Velveeta]

But I suspect they might be related.

I suspect so as well.
What are the odds of a Mr. Mashhadani photographer for Reuters taking photos of a "massacre" "investigated" by a Mr. Mashhadani Human Rights Organization for Time magazine?

Ali Mashhadani has a brother who was arrested with Ali, yet later released. I haven't been able to find the name of the brother - have you?