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Kos Blogger: "I Served During the First Gulf War"
TheMediaReport.com ^ | 18 June 2006 | Dave Pierre

Posted on 06/18/2006 9:27:28 PM PDT by infoguy

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To: tortoise
Yeah but there is a heck of a differece between 111lbs and 160lbs.
41 posted on 06/18/2006 10:55:41 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: tortoise

I tried to enlist in the Navy in 1963. I was 6' 3" and weighed 145lbs and they wouldn't take me and that was at the height of the VN war. That is why I questioned his story


42 posted on 06/18/2006 10:58:41 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever
Yeah but there is a heck of a differece between 111lbs and 160lbs.

At the time I was probably in peak shape in the light infantry, I had a few inches on this guy and was 135 pounds, so 111 at 66" is not unreasonable. Not a scrap of fat either in my case. Wiry guys can be quite strong and tend to have great endurance.

I bulked up a lot later over many years from spending time in the gym with weights, but it did not really help me as a soldier. For most purposes, that extra muscle is just dead weight you have to carry everywhere with you.

43 posted on 06/18/2006 11:02:50 PM PDT by tortoise
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To: tortoise

I never could figure out how the Navy wouldn't take me. My entire family was Navy in WW2 and Korea and we were all tall and thin.


44 posted on 06/18/2006 11:05:16 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever
I was 6' 3" and weighed 145lbs and they wouldn't take me and that was at the height of the VN war.

Geez, that is skinny; hiding thirty pounds in 9 inches over this guy is no small trick. 111 at 66" seems reasonable to me, but because I've known people who were in that ballpark. I'm guessing it is proportionally about where I was at one point when I was in great shape in the military, scaled for height differences. Assuming that this guy is in great shape, of course.

If he is a vegan twig, he'd probably get snapped in two...

45 posted on 06/18/2006 11:08:01 PM PDT by tortoise
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To: Texasforever
I never could figure out how the Navy wouldn't take me. My entire family was Navy in WW2 and Korea and we were all tall and thin.

You would figure that in the worst case they would bulk you up in basic to whatever standards they were looking for. The Army certainly aggressively re-engineered body types to spec when I was in basic (though quite a few years later than you).

46 posted on 06/18/2006 11:10:39 PM PDT by tortoise
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To: tortoise
Well I was varsity Basketball and Track so I was in good shape. It may have been the little strapless number I was wearing that killed me.
47 posted on 06/18/2006 11:12:13 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: infoguy

Nicely done


48 posted on 06/18/2006 11:21:31 PM PDT by SideoutFred (Save us from the Looney Left)
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To: RBMN

Timothy McVeigh served "during the Gulf War" as well, and he was a POS too.


Speaking as an active duty member, I often wonder why people automatically give anyone and everyone an automatic "Wow" just for serving. Trust me I appreciate the kind words, but not everyone in the military are great people. We are a segment of society that has every possible person you can imagine. I feel this way whether they did good and or did bad.


49 posted on 06/18/2006 11:32:04 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: infoguy

Just to clarify - on what side did Kos serve? The article doesn't say.


50 posted on 06/18/2006 11:33:52 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Now that Zarqawi is dead, who will the Democrats nominate in 2008?)
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To: VeniVidiVici
LOL
I served in GW1, in Las Vegas (Nellis AFB)
and during Vietnam for that matter - curiously, also at Nellis AFB.
51 posted on 06/18/2006 11:34:40 PM PDT by ASOC (Choose between the lesser of two evils and in the end, you still have, well, evil.)
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To: infoguy
His period of service occurred during the same time as the first Gulf war, but Kos himself stated in an article earlier this year that he "missed deploying to the Gulf War by a hair."

Oh. Well, in that case, George W. Bush served during the Vietnam War.
52 posted on 06/18/2006 11:35:44 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Now that Zarqawi is dead, who will the Democrats nominate in 2008?)
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To: tortoise; Texasforever

Thank you.

Texasforever, what about the height weight? Audie Murphy was 5'5" 120lbs when he entered the Army. Granted that was WWII, but even now, the minimum height for males is 5' and 100lbs. I know you probably didn't mean anything by it, but a bunch of small folk have done great things for this country, so I wouldn't be disparaging a guy for being 5'6" and 111 lbs (though, even to me, a small guy, that seems a tad light).


53 posted on 06/18/2006 11:51:10 PM PDT by Constantine XI Palaeologus ("Vicisti, Galilaee")
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To: Texasforever

"I dreamt I went to my recruiting station in my Maidenform bra."


54 posted on 06/19/2006 12:54:18 AM PDT by Erasmus (Run amuck. There's a lotta mucks out there a-waitin' to be run!)
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To: Army Air Corps
"Mother kos blogger"
Wordy. How about the simple: "Kosblogger?"
55 posted on 06/19/2006 1:31:36 AM PDT by sig226 (It's a gun. I shoot it.)
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To: DTogo

"By the way, did you know that John Kerry served in Vietnam?"

And got THREE purple hearts!!!!


56 posted on 06/19/2006 1:50:13 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: infoguy
The KOS clown defends his outrageous cavalier attitude about the murder of innocent Americans by creating a false impression about his military record?

I wonder where we've seen that before?

57 posted on 06/19/2006 1:56:12 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of "dependence on government"!)
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To: LiberalBassTurds
"...One things for sure, he was part of the don't ask don't tell platoon..."

Boy, after looking at that picture, it sure seems like you have that right.

58 posted on 06/19/2006 3:44:30 AM PDT by rlmorel (John Murtha: Out of touch, Out of His Mind. Lets make him Out of Congress! DIANA IREY FOR CONGRESS!)
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To: napscoordinator
"...I often wonder why people automatically give anyone and everyone an automatic "Wow" just for serving...."

My philosophy on this is called "Default Respect". I believe in giving everyone default respect in the abscence of a "disqualifying factor".

For example, If I meet ANYONE in uniform, knowing nothing about them, I ALWAYS give them the benefit of doubt, and as a result, respect. We all know of examples where people do have disqualifying factors, Benedict Arnold, Murtha, Kerry, McVeigh, etc.

If I meet an elderly person, I give them "default respect" because they have lived a lot longer than I have, and I have no idea what their life experiences are. That old guy who cut me off in traffic might be a WWII combat vet, or that old woman might have been a great trauma nurse in an ER, or whatever.

But I know exactly what you were trying to say. Just because someone is in the military does not in and of itself make them good.

59 posted on 06/19/2006 3:53:20 AM PDT by rlmorel (John Murtha: Out of touch, Out of His Mind. Lets make him Out of Congress! DIANA IREY FOR CONGRESS!)
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To: infoguy
I served during the Gulf War
It's exactly the same reason you hear "Vietnam era veteran" - wannabees.
60 posted on 06/19/2006 3:59:58 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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