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To: robertpaulsen
said 22% were in prison because of drug crimes and backed up that percentage with a link.

Your link was a reprint of an article that was published in the NY Times in 1991. Butterfield, the reporter, pulled his numbers out of various other articles and the Times was widely ridiculed.

I use Department of Justice statistics then cross reference them by using the simple search term "refute" to arrive at a range. I've given you links to the stats many times in tne past including refutations by other government agencies.

Measured how?
Availability of drugs. Rising incarceration levels without a reduction in seizures. The ever increasing number of innocent victims of accidental police shootings and turf war crossfire...The streets of America turned into a war zone.

What do you mean, total failure?
Bigger government. Loss of rights. Drug gang increases. A glut of ever cheaper drugs. The increase of danger zones. The loss of respect for the law. The danger to my children and grandchildren from the increase in criminal and law enforcement violence.

Can you show me any drug war victory?
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185 posted on 06/18/2006 9:49:58 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: mugs99
"Your link was a reprint of an article that was published in the NY Times in 1991."

Really? How did they know, in 1991, that the prison population in 2003 would be 2,019,234?

The article claims that 450,000 of those 2,019,234 are there because of a drug crime. That's 22%. Not half. Not 70-80%.

If you have a number that's different, provide me with a link as I courteously provided you with one. Without a link, I'm not interested.

"Measured how?
Availability of drugs."

Well, if nobody's using them, who cares? According to the laws of supply and demand, if availability is up and the price is down, what does that tell you about demand?

"Rising incarceration levels without a reduction in seizures."

The two are totally unrelated. To me, a rising incarceration level is not a sign of "total failure" -- more a sign of increased enforcement of the existing laws.

"Can you show me any drug war victory?"

Yeah. Overall drug use dropped 60% from its high in 1979 and has remained relatively flat for the last 15 years. That's how I measure success. It's that simple.

200 posted on 06/19/2006 6:48:49 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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