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Tsar admits: we've lost the war on drugs
The Scotsman ^ | Sun 18 Jun 2006 | MARCELLO MEGA AND KATE FOSTER

Posted on 06/18/2006 9:22:25 AM PDT by SittinYonder

SCOTLAND'S drugs tsar has sparked a furious row by openly declaring that the war on drugs is "long lost".

Tom Wood, a former deputy chief constable, is the first senior law enforcement figure publicly to admit drug traffickers will never be defeated.

Wood said no nation could ever eradicate illegal drugs and added that it was time for enforcement to lose its number one priority and be placed behind education and deterrence.

But his remarks have been condemned by Graeme Pearson, director of the Scottish Crime and Drug Enforcement Agency (SCDEA), who said he "strongly disagreed" with Wood.

The row has erupted as concern mounts about the apparent inability of police, Customs and other agencies to stem the flow of illegal drugs. It was reported yesterday that an eight-year-old Scottish school pupil had received treatment for drug addiction.

And despite decades of drug enforcement costing millions of pounds, Scotland has one of the worst drug problems in Europe, with an estimated 50,000 addicts. At least half a million Scots are believed to have smoked cannabis and 200,000 are believed to have taken cocaine.

Wood holds the influential post of chairman of the Scottish Association of Alcohol and Drug Action Teams, a body which advises the Executive on future policy. The fact that Wood and Pearson are at loggerheads over the war on drugs is severely embarrassing for ministers.

Wood said: "I spent much of my police career fighting the drugs war and there was no one keener than me to fight it. But latterly I have become more and more convinced that it was never a war we could win.

"We can never as a nation be drug-free. No nation can, so we must accept that. So the message has to be more sophisticated than 'just say no' because that simple message doesn't work.

"For young people who have already said 'yes', who live in families and communities where everybody says 'yes', we have to recognise that the battle is long lost."

He added: "Throughout the last three decades, enforcement has been given top priority, followed by treatment and rehabilitation, with education and deterrence a distant third.

"In order to make a difference in the long term, education and deterrence have to go to the top of the pile. We have to have the courage and commitment to admit that we have not tackled the problem successfully in the past. We have to win the arguments and persuade young people that drugs are best avoided."

Wood said he "took his hat off" to the SCDEA and added that it was essential to carry on targeting dealers. He stressed he was not advocating the decriminalisation or legalisation of any drugs.

"It's about our priorities and our thinking," said Wood. "Clearly, at some stage, there could be resource implications, but the first thing we have to do is realise we can't win any battles by continuing to put enforcement first."

But Pearson, director of the SCDEA, said he "fundamentally disagreed" that the war on drugs was lost.

"I strongly disagree when he says that the war on drugs in Scotland is lost. The Scottish Executive Drug Action Plan acknowledged that tackling drug misuse is a complex problem, demanding many responses. It is explicit within the strategy that to effectively tackle drug misuse, the various pillars of the plan cannot operate in isolation."

Alistair Ramsay, former director of Scotland Against Drugs, said: "We must never lose sight of the fact that enforcement of drug law is a very powerful prevention for many people and, if anything, drug law should be made more robust.

"The current fixation with treatment and rehabilitation on behalf of the Executive has really got to stop."

And Scottish Conservative justice spokeswoman Margaret Mitchell said: "I accept Wood's sincerity, but this is a very dangerous message to go out. I would never say that we have lost the war on drugs. Things are dire, but we should never throw up the white flag."

But Wood's view was backed by David Liddell, director of the Scottish Drugs Forum, who said: "We have never used the term 'drugs war' and it's right to move away from that sort of approach. For every £1 spent on treatment, £9-£18 is saved, including in criminal justice. The balance has been skewed towards more punitive aspects."

And John Arthur, manager of the drugs advice organisation Crew 2000, said: "I think Tom Wood is right. This is something our organisation has been arguing for for a long time and it is good to see this is now coming into the mainstream."

Among the ideas now backed by Wood is less reliance on giving methadone as a substitute to heroin addicts.

He says other substitutes should be considered, as well as the possibility of prescribing heroin itself or abstinence programmes.

One new method being examined by experts is neuro-electric therapy, which sends electrical pulses through the brain. One addict with a five-year habit, Barry Philips, 24, from Kilmarnock, said the treatment enabled him to come off heroin in only five days.

Wood said: "We need to look at the other options. Other substitutes are used in other countries. They even prescribe heroin in Switzerland and there is a pilot in Germany, with pilots also mooted in England and, more recently, Scotland. We need to have a fully informed debate."

A Scottish Executive spokesman said: "We have a very clear policy on drugs, which is to balance the need to tackle supply and challenge demand. They have to go hand in hand and we make no apology for that."


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To: Almondjoy
Even though probition didn't work

During prohibition they never executed people for possession. If we want to win the WOD, the most severe penalties will have to be imposed.

41 posted on 06/18/2006 10:08:13 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan,)
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To: taxed2death
The "drug problem" would be over in about 6 months.

What about when all the 16 year olds and 17 year old hit 18?

42 posted on 06/18/2006 10:09:14 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan,)
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To: SittinYonder
"I have long said that the only way we will win the war on drugs is if we impose the death penalty for possession. Others have suggested it is unreasonable and harsh, and maybe it is, but you can't win a war without piling up some bodies."?

I DO hope your joshing?

Cuz if you are serious, you have a real problem.

While I don't condone the use of drugs (and I support stiff penalties for "DEALERS") the thought of even considering such draconian penalties for simple possession, as you are, makes YOU a prime candidate for some of dat Jim Jones Koolaid!

Or better yet, perhaps you should consider emigrating to Singapore--where peoples rights' begin and end at the border.

43 posted on 06/18/2006 10:12:55 AM PDT by seasoned traditionalist
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To: texasmountainman
Sorry about your problem, our "family doctor" prescribed Pamelor for my wife. After two years of brain scrambling from misuse of that drug and others, mixed with alcohol, she was institutionalized. When I had the "doctor" prosecuted, he plead guilty, was only fined and got a year of "counseling" while his "patient" spent two years in therapy/detox.

Agreed, we can't even control "legal" drug use, where do we get our priorities?

44 posted on 06/18/2006 10:14:01 AM PDT by gandalftb
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To: Joe Bfstplk
Why didn't Singapore lose its war on drugs?

Everything you think you know about Singapore is wrong. Illegal drugs are cheap and plentiful in Singapore. Killing drug users has not worked in Singapore, Indonesia, China or North Korea. You want to try here?
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45 posted on 06/18/2006 10:16:25 AM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: SittinYonder


Welcome them to "The big league".

Let them see the effing morons flopping around like a carp on a dock, pissing and crapping their pants as they OD.

How's THAT for compassionate conservatism? LOL

Tell them..."This is your brain on drugs.....want some"? Sign up right here.

I don't think there would be too many takers.


46 posted on 06/18/2006 10:17:12 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: texasmountainman

In a fallen world, everyone is going to depressed at some point in time...




Bingo!


47 posted on 06/18/2006 10:17:50 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: SittinYonder

If your life is to any degree socialized more than a turnip, you will eventually have family and friends with a drug or alcohol problem. Would you tell us what you'd like to tell the court, that is about to sentence them to death, when your loved ones (assuming you have any) are up for final judgement?


48 posted on 06/18/2006 10:20:33 AM PDT by gandalftb
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To: VeritatisSplendor

Why doesn't government realize we could feed a trillion, or don't they want to?


49 posted on 06/18/2006 10:23:05 AM PDT by Lady Jag (You can complain because roses have thorns, or you can rejoice because thorns have roses.)
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To: texasmountainman
Cymbalta. I believe that it has made her nuts

It has...but it's legal don'tcha know.
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50 posted on 06/18/2006 10:23:43 AM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: seasoned traditionalist
Or better yet, perhaps you should consider emigrating to Singapore--where peoples rights' begin and end at the border.

If you violate the law you've given up your rights. This isn't an issue of rights. The government has the authority to make crimes punishable by death.

We are losing this war on drugs our country is fighting. If you want to talk about rights, think of what is happening under the current situation - seizing private property. If you are a landlord and someone is using your property to grow or sell drugs, you can lose your property. That's merely one example of the outrageous violations to the Constitution that our government is committing every day under the War On Drugs.

As many others here have pointed out, the WOD is so beneficial to the government in terms of the revenue it generates, there is no real desire to win. The government has interests in continuing the present state of affairs.

But the present state of affairs does nothing to stop drug use, it only allows the government to continue to grow, continue to invade the lives of individuals and violate our personal freedoms.

I believe a decision must be made to end the current state of affairs, and after significant time considering the options available to us, I am convinced that the only way we will win the War on Drugs is to impose the most severe punishment we can for those caught in possession of drugs.

I'm absolutely not joshing. I believe the present state of affairs is helping to grow our government and destroy our country from within.

51 posted on 06/18/2006 10:25:29 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan,)
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To: SittinYonder
I also don't execute murderers.

The question wasn't whether you do, but if you would.

52 posted on 06/18/2006 10:27:18 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: SittinYonder
I'm proposing what I believe is the only solution for winning the WOD. I'm not interested in executing people myself.

So much for the idea of a self-governing nation.

53 posted on 06/18/2006 10:28:52 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: gandalftb
Would you tell us what you'd like to tell the court, that is about to sentence them to death, when your loved ones (assuming you have any) are up for final judgement?

War is hell.

54 posted on 06/18/2006 10:29:48 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan,)
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To: tacticalogic
The question wasn't whether you do, but if you would.

I would execute murderers.

55 posted on 06/18/2006 10:30:54 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan,)
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To: SittinYonder

So, we become a nation that executes tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands?


56 posted on 06/18/2006 10:30:58 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: SittinYonder

Then why won't you execute a 14 year-old who got caught with a joint, if that's what he deserves?


57 posted on 06/18/2006 10:32:56 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: ImpBill
"Here is one conservative, and not a Libertine, that understands there is just as much money and interest in continuing the war on the "law" side as there is on the "lawless" side that have a vested interest in continuing "the was".

Very little at the state and especially Federal level these days is as simple as "right and wrong". You hit the nail right on the head.

The WOD is a "growth industry. Then there are all the extra Judges, Probation/Parole Officers, Court Clerks, Public Defenders, Paid Lawyers who profit(are employed because of this WOD) therefrom.

Then there are all the additional prisons which have been/are being built, as well as all the Corrections Officers, Admin. Staff, Counselors, outside vendors, contractors, etc., who benefit from this situation.

We now imprison more people than ANY other country IN THE WORLD and at least half, are for drug related offenses, and of those, most are for mere possession.

Insanity.

Of course as Sittin Yonder has suggested, what we really should do is simply execute them all, and then we would not have to worry about prison overpopulation problems.

58 posted on 06/18/2006 10:33:10 AM PDT by seasoned traditionalist
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To: SittinYonder
Tsar admits: we've lost the war on drugs,

Sheriff Joe Arpaio wouldn't put up with such a defeatist, nonsensical statement! Right?

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Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Ariz., knows the frustration in that sentiment. "I don't know how to stop the drug traffic, and I've been in it for 38 years," the sheriff, widely touted as the toughest cop in the nation, told Harper's in 2001. "I think if I knew, I'd be the president. I can give you what's been said 50 years ago. ... It's the same thing we're saying today – tough law enforcement, prevention, rehabilitation ... Nothing's changed.

The stuff coming across the border that we catch? Ten percent. Fifty years ago, 10 percent. Today, 10 percent. Nothing's changed ... I don't know how to solve the problem. Don't ask me."

-- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1156176/posts

59 posted on 06/18/2006 10:39:23 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: thoughtomator
Seems SittinYonder knows somewhere deep down that the WoD is a fraud

Sure he does...and he's right. The only way to win the drug war is to execute all drug users, but this war isn't about drugs. It's about business...the law enforcement/prison industry needs the drug war.

1 in 37 adults living in the United States is in prison or has served time there...the highest incarceration level in the world. Today, the USA keeps more than two million people behind bars, compared with only 200,000 three decades ago. With 5 percent of the world's population, we account for 25 percent of its prison population.

The law enforcement/prison industry would not have that spectacular growth without the drug war. Thousands of public servants depend on the drug war for their income, health and retirement benefits.
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60 posted on 06/18/2006 10:42:19 AM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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