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There were more than three. The rest of them took off after the original hit and run raiders, leaving the three at the checkpoint. Whereupon the second wave hit. It's called a feigned withdrawal, and it's literally one of the oldest tricks in the book--it was ancient when the Romans used it. And it still works, unless your troops have iron discipline.


100 posted on 06/18/2006 12:59:35 AM PDT by kms61
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Still begs the question if this was a checkpoint with that many troops manning it, was there over-watch in place. Obviously there will be things we don't know fully about the attack in order for us to adjust our TTPS.

But this is every ground Soldiers worst nightmare, and hopefully we get these guys back and take some hard learned lessons out of it.
104 posted on 06/18/2006 2:55:57 AM PDT by lt.america (Captain was already taken)
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There were more than three. The rest of them took off after the original hit and run raiders, leaving the three at the checkpoint. Whereupon the second wave hit. It's called a feigned withdrawal, and it's literally one of the oldest tricks in the book

Exactly. The bulk of the patrol took the bait, but the ambush wasn't for them, it was for the security element left behind. No doubt the insurgents have seen this phenomenon before, and realized "Hey, we could probably sneak up on the small team that's left behind and bag them".

As far as that goes, it shows either criminal or strategic thinking. Yousefiyah itself is a farming area near Baghdad rife with kidnap for ransom gangs and Sunni extremist sympathizers. It's very likely that local insurgents/criminals caught these guys to sell to al-Qa'ida in Iraq or some other major group. It's possible that a larger group just did it themselves, but it seems to be a local job by people who were very, very familiar with the terrain, and the specific tactics used by these checkpoint guards.

Either way, it would have been a lot safer to gun these guys down and shoot a quick propaganda video rather than take them alive. They're taking a huge risk doing this, and that leads me to believe that this wasn't just some clever insurgents who pulled off a nice ambush. It was a coordinated maneuver to take hostages by people with a plan.

105 posted on 06/18/2006 3:07:25 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (- Islam will never survive being laughed at. -)
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