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To: California Patriot
The "truly guilty parties" are the ACLU thugs, who bullied a school district for putting forward for discussion an idea that they don't like.

Nonsense. The guilty parties are the ones who lied on the stand.

Are you seriously suggesting that crimes shouldn't be crimes when you agree with the political agenda of the criminal?

The board members knew that what they were doing was un-Constitutional. That's why they lied.

28 posted on 06/17/2006 3:50:34 PM PDT by highball (Proud to announce the birth of little Highball, Junior - Feb. 7, 2006!)
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To: highball

It wasn't unconstitutional.

If they lied, it was wrong and should be punished. But to go after the school district for big bucks is outrageous, as are most of the ACLU's suits.


33 posted on 06/17/2006 4:21:15 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws.")
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To: highball; Doctor Stochastic; California Patriot; Stultis; ml1954
The Dover school board members who testified were not only caught lying under oath, but the Discovery Institute also got caught with a vital contradiction to their own claims about ID. DI promoted ID as being non-religious [although everyone knew that the 'designer' was to be God wink, wink] and not in any way related to 'creationism'.

But in the testimony it was revealed that the textbook Pandas had been rewritten from its previous creationist version simply using "copy and replace" so "creation science" was replaced with "intelligent design" in paragraph after paragraph and page after page.

And to make matters worse for the DI, Michael Behe, DI's 'expert witness', admitted under cross examination that his definition of “science theory” was so broad it would also include astrology 1

In fact, the religiously based Thomas Moore Center is now so pissed off with DI that the two groups are not on speaking terms. TMC believes DI made them laughing stocks in the legal world by DI's blindsiding TMC about Pandas, Behe, and generally inept "support". One TMC staffer said, "With friends like DI, who needs enemies? The Discovery Institute practically handed the ACLU the victory."

DI has seen a noticeable drop off in donations after Dover, although they still get about $2.5 million/yr from Ahmanson and other evolution-denier fat-cats.

DI is now reduced to whimpering about "teach the controversy". This is probably the stupidest idea they've come up with yet, because, as everyone knows, there is no controversy in the scientific world and the idea of one is merely of DI's perfervid imagination. And since one can invent "controversies" all day, the "teach the controversy" notion just leads to more parodies and laughs at DI's expense.

See, for example, http://www.re-discovery.org/gravity_1.html Gravity: Just a Theory More parodies on how ID would apply to the Solar System and Periodic Table of the Elements on the site. http://www.re-discovery.org/

http://swiftreport.blogs.com/news/2005/08/math_for_believ.html Pythagorean Theorem. Theorems and theories--it is ridiculous to teach geometry to students unless you honestly teach "the controversy"! Deometry is "intelligent design" applied to math and geometry.

http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4133&n=2 Intelligent Falling fits with "Gravity: Just a Theory", above.

Flying Spaghetti Monster http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster http://www.venganza.org/response.htm Thoughtful people have noted that Flying Spaghetti Monsterism has at least the same credibility as the allahs and gods of "sacred" texts in "revealed words". The Pastafarian movement is growing at three times (!) the rate of the ID outfit, Discovery Institute.

Stork theory of babies http://www.antievolution.org/features/evohumor/storkism.html

38 posted on 06/17/2006 4:35:43 PM PDT by thomaswest (Just curious)
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