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It amazes me that people would ever be criticized for trying to succeed.
1 posted on 06/17/2006 11:39:00 AM PDT by wagglebee
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Black Conservative Ping.


2 posted on 06/17/2006 11:39:48 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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It amazes me that people would ever be criticized for trying to succeed.

But it doesn't amaze you that people would be persecuted for actually succeeding?

3 posted on 06/17/2006 11:41:16 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (if you're human, act like it.)
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The “acting white” theory – that some black students are dissuaded from trying their hardest in school for fear of being teased by peers – has moved beyond academia and into public consciousness.

This has also been a problem among hispanics.

5 posted on 06/17/2006 11:44:45 AM PDT by CAWats (And I will make no distinction between terrorists and the democrats.)
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So, liberalism by this logic, is "acting black"?

"Plantation" and its related mentalities.

Victimhood, just another form of slavery?


6 posted on 06/17/2006 11:45:55 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (H.R.4437 > S.2611)
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Unfortunately the DNC takes this crap out of the High Schools and applies it to adult black Republicans.


7 posted on 06/17/2006 11:46:26 AM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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Eventually this country will have to make a decision about what to do with the spiritual grandchildren of Lyndon Johnson's Great Society legislation; the people who were stranded in the SuperDome after Katrina and all the people like them all around the country who have no education, no jobs, no money, and no ability to do for themselves.

And another generation of this will only make it worse. Excuses won't make it better, and neither will the idea that being successful is "acting white".

I wonder if we'll hear about "acting Gringo" in a few years?

8 posted on 06/17/2006 11:47:09 AM PDT by Bernard (God helps those who helps themselves - The US Government takes in the rest.)
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Its not a new theory or isolated to blacks. The best term for it is "A bucket full of crabs." Referencing the fact that any single crab can reach up, grab the edge of the bucket and pull itself out. But if the bucket is full of crabs, the crab attempting escape will always get pulled back in by the rest of the crabs.


9 posted on 06/17/2006 11:48:38 AM PDT by SampleMan
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The issue is not so simple.
I work in a lot of schools in the hood.Sure,occasionally a black teen will get teased for"acting like a white boy/girl"but it is usually done in a good natured way,not aimed as a vicious and provocative barb.Most of the black kids I know who are college bound and stay out of"the game"are "shown love"by the other youngsters who are most likely going to fall into the numerous ghetto traps that are out there.
One corollary to the above paragraph is that almost NO black kids who grow up the ghetto want to be isolated from their peer's culture.The same kids who know they have to measure up to "mainstream"standards to be successful in life also have to walk a thin line in not alienating or appearing that they think they are better than their classmates.Some do this tightrope act better than others.
This generation of black teens is probably the LEAST race conscious.Several years ago I sat in the counselor's office waiting for an assignment and a black college student was interviewing Ninth Graders who wished to have a big brother/sister.One of the questions she asked was if the kids preferred someone of their own race or was that not an issue.
All six of the black teens stated without hesitation that race was not an issue.They really just wanted someone,ANYONE,to care about them.


10 posted on 06/17/2006 11:49:47 AM PDT by Riverman94610
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It's sort of like much of the rest of the world's criticism of the US and other successful representative countries.


11 posted on 06/17/2006 11:51:19 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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This should be mandatory reading for those who have trouble reading.
These kids are courageous, actually courageous, for finding their own ways. It would be hard to overestimate the trials they faced in swimming against the currents of the modern culture.
12 posted on 06/17/2006 11:51:43 AM PDT by thegreatbeast (Perhaps one)
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Why would the existence of such well known things as envy and inferiority complex amaze you? It would be more amazing if they did not exist, or failed to manifest themselves - and they can manifest themselves only as bringing down, and pulling back in, of those trying to rise above and get away from the swamp.


13 posted on 06/17/2006 11:52:06 AM PDT by GSlob
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This is happening to our own White kids to a degree as well. The more we let the Ghetto/NBA culture remain intact the "bucket of Crabs" mentioned by the other poster will start effecting more and more kids that are not in this dead-end homie culture of mind slaves
15 posted on 06/17/2006 11:55:09 AM PDT by roverman2K6
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I salute the students for the ability to look towards their future and not just try to fit into whatever style is currently popular.

The company I work for has a customer support help desk for merchant side credit card transactions and recently advertised for 3 new techs. Some of the applicants were very interesting to interview. The ad specifically stated that applicant MUST be able to speak proper English, have good writing skills and technical troubleshooting skills.

About 1/2 of the applications were not even followed up on as you could not read them or make sense of them. Of the applicants interviewed approximately 40% were stopped due to the fact the could not hold a conversation without using slang, cussing or just being inarticulate.

Of the 1000+ applications submitted only 22 persons made it to the 2nd interview. It still amazes me that high school or college graduates are so totally unprepared for the work environment.

16 posted on 06/17/2006 11:55:30 AM PDT by SledgeCS (I say round up the Illegals, ship them back home and bill their country for the cost...)
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"George W Bush acts too Mexican"


17 posted on 06/17/2006 11:55:52 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (H.R.4437 > S.2611)
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Students who want to learn, will learn. Students who don't want to learn, won't learn. It has ever been so, regardless of race.


18 posted on 06/17/2006 11:56:35 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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I wish we could we criticize people for being stupid, regardless of race, creed or color. This belief about getting good grades means you're acting white just gives proof to people like that teacher in SC who believe blacks are inferior students. As long as this belief has any effect on black students, those people are right.


19 posted on 06/17/2006 11:58:39 AM PDT by GBA
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How about acting normal?


20 posted on 06/17/2006 11:59:02 AM PDT by leftee
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Yardan Shabazz , an English teacher at Indian River High in Chesapeake, can’t escape the “acting white” debate.

It might help if he reverted to his original name.

21 posted on 06/17/2006 12:03:02 PM PDT by Salvey (ancest)
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Ixavion Wright,4.0+ gpa plans to begin pre-med studies....He gets it.Ten years down the road when he's practicing medicine,his homies will be stuck in the hood or doing time,all the while blaming their problems on racism.


22 posted on 06/17/2006 12:03:16 PM PDT by Thombo2
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The Dixie Chicks act too Yankee.


23 posted on 06/17/2006 12:03:58 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (H.R.4437 > S.2611)
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