[SICSEMPERTYRANNUS]

Vortex ring state is a common phenomenon to all rotary wing aircraft and the pilots who crashed failed to keep their AC out of the state.

I wonder if they have learned how to induce vortex ring state, for traning purposes, on the V-22. From what I heard vortex ring state on the V-22 had not been experienced before the accident (no NATOPS procedures). Unfortunately and as they say, the manual is written in blood.

SIC

[tophat9000]

I wonder if they have learned how to induce vortex ring state, for traning purposes, on the V-22.

The interesting this is that they found the V-22 induce vortex ring state is very ease to get out of(unlike a helicopter)just tilt the rotors forwarded and power out...

Bottom line you don't fly a plane like a helicopter and you don't fly a helicopter like a plane...And VSTOL aircraft like the Harrier and the Ospreys you don't fly like either a helicopter or plane

...The Harrier was considerer a widow maker till the this hard lesson was learned