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VoIP sounds death knell for home phones
vnunet.com ^ | 15 Jun 2006 | Matt Chapman

Posted on 06/16/2006 7:29:01 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Voice over IP wielding the knife, says analyst

VoIP technology spells the end of traditional home telephone numbers, according to an industry analyst.

A study by JupiterResearch claims that the rise in fixed/mobile telephone services appeals strongly to Europeans, and that location will cease to be important for either making or receiving calls.

The report said that 27 per cent of consumers are already interested in regularly using their mobile phone in place of their home telephone.

"VoIP will convert the home telephone from analogue to digital and, once digital, the home telephone number will become unfixed," said Ian Fogg, lead author of the reports and senior analyst at JupiterResearch.

"It will no longer be available just at home, but in the office, in internet cafes and even on mobile phones."

Fogg explained that VoIP telephony is attractive to consumers because services are cheap and flexible.

The study found that PC-based VoIP telephony already appeals to 17 per cent of consumers in Europe, with 21 per cent interested in diverting their home telephone to a mobile phone showing their desire to use their home telephone number wherever they are.

However, Fogg warned that services must be allowed to operate across other providers' systems if uptake is to be successful.

"Mobile operators and internet VoIP competitors must lobby to ensure that their VoIP services operate unimpeded across other ISPs' connections, or they must be prepared to invest in fixed broadband to ensure the security of network supply for their VoIP services," he said.


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To: Straight Vermonter
What is worse is the people with the "push to talk" phones. Now I get to hear both sides of their stupid conversation.

Are those the "walkie-talkie" phones that make that loud cricket chirp that signifies that one party has stopped transmitting? If you are at one end of a Super Made-in-China-Mart you can hear someone's phone chirping away at the other end. And people who are half-deaf turn the volume all the way up.

81 posted on 06/17/2006 6:39:16 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: N. Theknow
VoIP is mobile to the exctent you can take it with you anywhere.

Yes, I know. But it's still obscure. Compare the number of VoIP users to the number of cell phone users.
82 posted on 06/17/2006 7:40:54 AM PDT by Terpfen
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To: Screamname
They remind me of The Borg.
83 posted on 06/17/2006 7:46:18 AM PDT by reg45
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To: dawn53

Who was your Voip provider?


84 posted on 06/17/2006 7:51:56 AM PDT by TruthWillWin
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To: CyberAnt
What VoIP service do you have that's 19.95?

I'm considering Sun Rocket. They are less than $17 for unlimited US calls and loaded with features.

85 posted on 06/17/2006 7:57:36 AM PDT by TruthWillWin
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To: TruthWillWin

Vonage


86 posted on 06/17/2006 8:28:40 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: Celtman
While long distance and even local calls have been transported digitially beginning about 30 years ago, the "traditional" carriers use different protocols - SDH and SONET, not IP.

You are misinformed. They migrated voice traffic to IP many years ago -- I remember because of the regulatory/contractual mess it made at the time. As for SONET and SDH, you are misunderstanding the technology. The telcos were running IP over SONET over a decade ago and were even running IP over Ethernet over SONET six or seven years ago (a gross hack, but too many peering points went to Ethernet fabrics and they wanted to save their investment in SONET equipment). VOIP = Voice Over *IP*. The Layer-2 transport used is mostly irrelevant. The telco protocols used to be common for long-haul L2, but GigE ate their lunch about five years ago.

87 posted on 06/17/2006 9:06:10 AM PDT by tortoise
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To: TruthWillWin

Well .. I went with EarthLink because my son used to work for them as a senior tech, and I knew some background on them and that they were not some fly-by-night outfit.


88 posted on 06/17/2006 9:11:33 AM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: Terpfen
The cell phone has much more to do with the demise of landline phones at home.

You're right. But I won't shut down my landline phone until I have zero drop-offs on my cell. Right now, I have about five a day.

89 posted on 06/17/2006 9:15:31 AM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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To: Moiraine

For my model of router (Linksys BEFSX41, Firmware Version: 1.52.9) I select the "Applications & Gaming" tab and then the QoS sub-option. Then I enter the MAC address of the VoIP adapter in the provide location on the form and set it's priority to "High." That's all I needed to do, because after that device gets the bandwidth it needs I don't really care about how the other computers share the bandwidth.


90 posted on 06/17/2006 7:36:08 PM PDT by whd23
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To: ARealMothersSonForever; tortoise
      I'm quite familiar with the OSI model.  However, telecommunications companies (actually, AT&T when it was the only game in town) developed their own networks independently of the ARPANet inspired Internet Protocol and also independently of the OSI model (which is theoretical.)  When digital signalling replaced analog frequency-domain multiplexing, digital time-domain multiplexing was used to establish corresponding virtual dedicated circuits between point A and point B.  This formed the Synchronous Digital Hierarchy.  Synchronous - with dedicated time slices.  No packet switching. 

      In about 1993, WilTel developed ATM (Asynchronous Transfer Mode) packet switching to increase network bandwidth, but the ATM model is different than the OSI model.  ATM was intended for reliable voice and video transport (and was originally used without TCP/IP,) but of course can also be used for data - it's used on the Internet backbone. 

      Level 3 was the first telecommunications carrier to base its voice network on VoIP, in about 2000.  (About the same time, Novell began supporting IP directly, as an alternative to IPX.)  To me, this does not qualify as "many years."

Hope that helps =:0)

91 posted on 06/19/2006 10:00:49 PM PDT by Celtman (It's never right to do wrong to do right.)
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To: nickcarraway
A week ago I added my father-in-law to my verizon plan for $9.99 per month. He lives in rural ohio and paid over 50 dollars per month for a land-line phone with fractional long distance. That's with no add ons - just the base rate. With his new cell phone (great phone that came free), he gets to keep his land line phone number (a recent feature - to be able to transfer a land line number to a cell phone) and I save him 40 clams a month. It took a while to teach him how to retrieve voice mail (he's 86), but now he's got the hang of it and quite happy.

I'm telling my friends about it. I can see land lines going away fast, especially for folks who live alone.
92 posted on 06/19/2006 10:08:12 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: umgud
Still waiting for my Dick Tracy watch.

Dang! I just got my decoder ring!

(Watch...somebody is going to ask how to download the "decoder ringtone"....)

93 posted on 06/19/2006 10:16:09 PM PDT by paulat
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To: Screamname
You literally will not find one Pakistan cab driver without those things in their ears, and if you don`t believe me ask any Freeper who lives in New York city and they will tell you the same.. I mean who the hell are they talking to? Their wife? Their kids?

Smart cabbies network. They start to build up a clientele of "private" customers they take care of "off-the-grid." I know...I have a cabbie's private number, I know him, and he goes out of his way for me. (NO WISECRACKS, pls!!)

Most of the cabbies I know have a regular roster of clients they take to the beauty salon, etc., on a regular basis.

94 posted on 06/19/2006 10:22:28 PM PDT by paulat
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To: tang-soo
I'm telling my friends about it. I can see land lines going away fast, especially for folks who live alone.

Do the local authorities know where he is if he dials 911? That's my main worry for my mom.

95 posted on 06/19/2006 10:27:54 PM PDT by paulat
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To: Terpfen

Yep, I am thinking of losing the landline when I move in November...


96 posted on 06/19/2006 10:28:31 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: TommyDale

Please explain the basics of efax. I looked into it a year or so ago and did not like the idea of logging on to a website and paying them a service charge to fax something on my computer to a remote fax machine.

I just want to load the papers and hit the fax button after dailing the fax numbers. Can I do that as simply with VoIP? TIA.


97 posted on 06/19/2006 10:39:53 PM PDT by Hostage
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To: zarf

Skype is terrible! We didn't even use the first $10 we had. And this was to Ireland.


98 posted on 06/19/2006 11:03:28 PM PDT by It's me
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To: paulat

I don`t know, I can see wanting to do that if it was a slow day, but to me it woudln`t be worth it. Like say I`m all the way down in Brooklyn and somone calls me from Harlem wanting a trip to the beauty salon, it would be one pain in the neck to drive allll the way up there when I could just as easily pick up anyone off the street in Brooklyn. I would probably only do that phone thing if it was regular people who want to go to the airport. Another thing I don`t get is all these cabbies who hang out in front of hotels, you always see these huge lines, especially in front of the Hilton on 6th avenue. These guys have to be waiting at least 2 to 3 hours, so after 3 hours they drive someone to Kennedy (and that`s if they are lucky enough to get someone who wants to go to Kennedy), that`s only $40 they made in 3 hours. Meanwhile in that time I`ve made $100 just by driving around picking people off the street.


99 posted on 06/20/2006 12:21:08 AM PDT by Screamname (George Noory freggin` rules!)
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To: Screamname

You get 200 regular customers and you got a good thing going. You pick up pick-ups on the side.

That's the way I'd run a biz.


100 posted on 06/20/2006 12:24:33 AM PDT by paulat
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