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To: Bikers4Bush

The President is the Commander=in=Chief
of the ARMED FORCES...not the Border Patrol,
which falls under the auspices of the
STATE GOVERNORS. If Bush were to send
SOLDIERS to the border, that could be
interpretted as an act of aggression by
the Mexican govt. And believe it, there
are those in Congress who would LOVE to
see the Pres. do something just that dull-
witted!
Bush has been in contact with the govs.
of each of those states. THAT'S the
extent of his prerogative for action.
Have these sheriffs put their case before
their governors? The chain of command
must be within protocol; otherwise, Bush
is open for criticism re over-riding his
powers. He's already received gubernatorial
assent for his plan to send thousands of
STATE National Guardsmen to the border.
He is curtailed from doing more LEGALLY.

http://www.arng.army.mil/about_us/aiding_america.asp
Poe requested the meeting for members of the Southwestern Sheriffs' Border Coalition a group that includes all 26 border-county sheriffs from California, New Mexico, Arizona and Texas. The sheriffs wanted to speak to the president about the increasing dangers in their communities and along the border.


27 posted on 06/16/2006 11:05:16 AM PDT by Grendel9 (u)
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To: Grendel9

BTW, if the local sheriffs are aware
of terrorists slipping through the
border, you can bet the President
of the nation is also aware...without
being told by them.


32 posted on 06/16/2006 11:07:51 AM PDT by Grendel9 (u)
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To: Grendel9

The border patrol is controlled by the feds, not state governors.

The FEDERAL GOVERNMENT is responsible for the borders and it's Bush's job to secure it.


33 posted on 06/16/2006 11:07:55 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Grendel9
not the Border Patrol, which falls under the auspices of the STATE GOVERNORS.

Gawd, last I checked, the BP was part of Homeland Security, which is under Bush's command.

That's a pretty poor Bush apology even by the limited standards for such on this issue.

36 posted on 06/16/2006 11:08:19 AM PDT by dirtboy (When Bush is on the same side as Ted the Swimmer on an issue, you know he's up to no good...)
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To: Grendel9

(not the Border Patrol,
which falls under the auspices of the
STATE GOVERNORS)


That is a flat out lie.


42 posted on 06/16/2006 11:11:47 AM PDT by A Troop 1-14 Cav (By the time you understand women, you are one.)
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To: Grendel9
He is curtailed from doing more LEGALLY.

Wrong again. The Constitution empowers the federal government to protect this country from invasion. When foreign troops come into this country to support drug smuggling, it sure as heck fits my definition of an invasion, and should be met with all due force.

43 posted on 06/16/2006 11:12:58 AM PDT by dirtboy (When Bush is on the same side as Ted the Swimmer on an issue, you know he's up to no good...)
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To: Grendel9
The President is the Commander=in=Chief of the ARMED FORCES...not the Border Patrol, which falls under the auspices of the STATE GOVERNORS.

The Border Patrol is federal, not state. They are part of Customs and Border Protection, under the Department of Homeland Security.

Did you mean to say the National Guard?

50 posted on 06/16/2006 11:16:31 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: Grendel9
The President is the Commander=in=Chief of the ARMED FORCES...not the Border Patrol, which falls under the auspices of the STATE GOVERNORS.

You may be thinking of the National Guard, then, eh? The Border Patrol is under the control of the Homeland Security Administration...a federal body under the Exective department. The President is in command of the Border Patrol. A little attention to detail, please...

59 posted on 06/16/2006 11:20:46 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: Grendel9

The association is not part of the chain of command. He is refusing to receive IT. That's a political act.


69 posted on 06/16/2006 11:28:17 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Grendel9

If Bush were to send
SOLDIERS to the border, that could be
interpretted as an act of aggression by
the Mexican govt.

Who gives a CRAP what Mexico thinks? Obviously they are not our friends!


162 posted on 06/16/2006 12:44:01 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: Grendel9
The President is the Commander=in=Chief of the ARMED FORCES

A little off topic but, I always thought it was Commander and chief. "Commander in chief" just doesn't make sense.

206 posted on 06/16/2006 1:20:25 PM PDT by SealSeven (Moving at the speed of dark.... Even "nothing" takes up space.)
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To: Grendel9
***The President is the Commander=in=Chief of the ARMED FORCES...not the Border Patrol, which falls under the auspices of the STATE GOVERNORS.***

Don't Drink & Post.

1) The Border Patrol is NOT under the auspices of the governors. That would be the National Guard, unless they are "Federalized".
3) The POTUS is also the "Chief" of ALL Federal Law Enforcement, which the BP is part of.

261 posted on 06/16/2006 4:51:30 PM PDT by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: Grendel9
The President is the Commander=in=Chief of the ARMED FORCES...not the Border Patrol, which falls under the auspices of the STATE GOVERNORS.

You sir are ignorant of the facts, the Border Patrol is part of Homeland Security, Which the last time I checked is part of the Federal Government. When I pass by the Border Patrol Sector Headquarters, which is a few blocks from my house, I see U.S. Border Patrol, on the signs, and the vehicles.

If you can't get that right, I have no intrest in your defense of our Open Borders President.

269 posted on 06/16/2006 7:26:51 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: Grendel9
"The President is the Commander=in=Chief
of the ARMED FORCES...not the Border Patrol, "

WHAT? The US Border Patrol is a FEDERAL agency, part of the Executive branch. The President is the head of that Executive branch. Where on earth did you get the idea that the President only had authority over the military?

"If Bush were to send
SOLDIERS to the border, that could be
interpretted as an act of aggression by
the Mexican govt."

I guess all those members of the Mexican military on our border - and across it on occasion - are just fine...

"He is curtailed from doing more LEGALLY."

Hardly. He could do his duty under Art 2, Sec 3: "he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed".
304 posted on 06/17/2006 12:08:41 PM PDT by WFBFan
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To: Grendel9
If Bush were to send SOLDIERS to the border, that could be interpretted as an act of aggression by the Mexican govt.

LOL! Who really cares what the Mexico government thinks or doesn't think, they are actively encouraging their citizens to invade the USA! Talk about dull witted!

476 posted on 06/20/2006 7:05:52 AM PDT by SwordofTruth (God is good all the time.)
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