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Bush declines to meet with border officials
San Bernardino Sun ^ | 06/16/2006 | Sara A. Carter

Posted on 06/16/2006 10:41:38 AM PDT by Small-L

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To: Grendel9
BTW, if the local sheriffs are aware of terrorists slipping through the border, you can bet the President of the nation is also aware...without being told by them.

Umm OK

BTW, if the Bush's doctors are aware of cancer spreading throughout his internal organs, you can bet the President of the nation is also aware...without being told by them.

Because he was elected due to his omniscience.

61 posted on 06/16/2006 11:21:46 AM PDT by MrEdd (I would have gotten away with it too - if it weren't for those meddling kids and their stupid dog.)
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To: Bikers4Bush
We aren't talking about the NAACP, wer'e talking about law enforcement officials who are trying to protect the homes and people in their jurisdictions from criminal invaders.

The two are not even remotely similar.

That you are suggesting because GWB doesn't meet with certain people (or groups) personally that, that in itself means anything is utterly foolishness (just like the silly assertions the NAACP makes).

Furthermore GWB has met all sorts of people and we have whole segments of our Gov't devoted to the issue of immigration. It is utterly absurd to suggest because the President can't fit everyone into his schedule that would like to talk with him.....that that means he doesn't really care about whatever issue they want to discuss.

It is childish to suggest such.

62 posted on 06/16/2006 11:21:56 AM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: Wolfstar
I don't trust honesty of the article due to a claim in it that the congressmen had to travel to Washington to try to meet with GWB. Makes no sense. The annual congressional picnic was yesterday.

If you'd bother to read the entire article, you would see that the group travelled in MAY. In addition, it isn't clear whether this is the Texas House members - it is likely it is from the way the article is worded.

OK, now retreat back to your next prepared position.

63 posted on 06/16/2006 11:23:38 AM PDT by dirtboy (When Bush is on the same side as Ted the Swimmer on an issue, you know he's up to no good...)
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To: Small-L
"Stimulate and accelerate cross-border technology trade by preventing unnecessary barriers from being erected (e.g., agree on mutual recognition of technical requirements for telecommunications equipment, tests and certification; adopt a framework of common principles for e-commerce)."

The above quote is from the White House website. It seems to be a clear statement of the current Administration's intent on border issues.
Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America Prosperity Agenda
64 posted on 06/16/2006 11:24:34 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: DevSix

So how is it that he found time to run out to the border and do a rah rah session with the border patrol under controlled circumstances during his push for amnesty but he can't find the time to meet with the folks who are being over run by the criminal aliens and would like to have a chat with him about controlling the borders?


65 posted on 06/16/2006 11:25:14 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: RobbyS
Bush has always made it clear that he is in favor of open borders. As said above, he is not going to do anything effective to slow immigration. Correct. President Bush has never made a secret of his open borders policies. Even during his 2000 campaign, he made it clear that he welcomed our Spanish-speaking neighbors and celebrated the fact that Spanish was spoken in many cities in the USA. When people are suprised that President Bush believes this, I'm surprised that they weren't aware. President Bush is the duly-elected President of The United States, and he did not run on a "close the borders" platform at all.
66 posted on 06/16/2006 11:25:22 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: Bikers4Bush
So the jaunt to Iraq the other day was planned months ago?

First, it wasn't a "jaunt." Second, the answer is yes, it was. Neither this President nor any other can simply pick up and go on a moment's notice. Wherever a president travels, literally hundreds of other people travel with him. The Secret Service sends an advance team weeks ahead to plan security. Cooks, food, fuel for AF1, limos, ambulances, doctors, the guy with the "football," Marine One type helicopters when necessary, all of that and more have to be organized and sent either ahead of or with the POTUS.

In addition, his calendar is filled far in advance with all sorts of events, from trips he takes, to visits by foreign leaders and dignitaries, to yesterday's Congressional picnic, to visits by sports champions, etc.

BTW, only the darkest and most unreasonable of minds can think the way you do about the Iraq "jaunt."

67 posted on 06/16/2006 11:26:11 AM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: TexasTaysor

In the United States, once an agreement is signed, the President must submit the agreement to Congress where it must sit in review for 60 session days. If Congress takes no action during this time, the agreement can move forward.

Sixty session days can allow Congress to inflict serious damage to an agreement's wording. I hardly think the President currently has enough favor with Congress b/c of his immigration stance to allow any totalization to move anyway but out by garbage truck.

The easiest way to get the Mexican Senate to kill it is for the US Congress to revise it requiring Mexican workers pay into the fund for twenty quarters as a legal resident of the US before any claims may be made. A fair requirement will kill it.


68 posted on 06/16/2006 11:26:53 AM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: Grendel9

The association is not part of the chain of command. He is refusing to receive IT. That's a political act.


69 posted on 06/16/2006 11:28:17 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
The may story was STATE house members, not federal house members.

The article posted above just says "some Republican members of the House," and then goes on to talk about "the House Subcommittee on International Terrorism and Nonproliferation hope to expose serious security flaws that could potentially lead to terrorist attacks in the country, said Rep. Ted Poe, R-Texas."

Federal, not state.

71 posted on 06/16/2006 11:28:40 AM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: Bikers4Bush
"So how is it that he found time to run out to the border and do a rah rah session with the border patrol under controlled circumstances during his push for amnesty but he can't find the time to meet with the folks who are being over run by the criminal aliens and would like to have a chat with him about controlling the borders?"

Hey, he went down there and had a look at the border for himself. Why would he need to meet with a bunch of county sheriffs and local legislators. He has experts on his staff who can tell him what he wants or needs to hear, right? He is the President. I guess he can meet with whomever he wishes, or not meet with others.

72 posted on 06/16/2006 11:29:25 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: Bikers4Bush
"So how is it that he found time to run out to the border and do a rah rah session with the border patrol under controlled circumstances during his push for amnesty but he can't find the time to meet with the folks who are being over run by the criminal aliens and would like to have a chat with him about controlling the borders?"

Hey, he went down there and had a look at the border for himself. Why would he need to meet with a bunch of county sheriffs and local legislators. He has experts on his staff who can tell him what he wants or needs to hear, right? He is the President. I guess he can meet with whomever he wishes, or not meet with others.

73 posted on 06/16/2006 11:29:27 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: Small-L
Glo-Baloney
74 posted on 06/16/2006 11:29:32 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (A wall first. A wall now.)
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To: Bikers4Bush
So how is it that he found time to run out to the border and do a rah rah session with the border patrol under controlled circumstances during his push for amnesty but he can't find the time to meet with the folks who are being over run by the criminal aliens and would like to have a chat with him about controlling the borders?

And the NAACP says the same thing! How come he can find time to do this or that...but can't meet with us (blah, blah, blah) - There are all sorts of reasons and circumstances which give valid reasons as to "why".....without reverting to some silly and foolish notion that it simply is because he wants to turn America over to Mexico..

This CIC is handling a great many issues and doing a d*mn fine job in the process. That some silly as$ whining (whoa is me) type Sheriffs want to complain because they can't get there 15 min's of fame with TV coverage of meeting with the POTUS speaks volumes about them! Not our fine President.

I am so sick to death of how many people expect the POTUS to hold their d*mn hands and listen to them whine and cry.

75 posted on 06/16/2006 11:30:36 AM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: calex59

"This issue is the big one for right now and probably will be for some years to come. The President and the both houses had better get with the program if they want republicans to hold seats for long."

First off I think our President and Congress are doing an abysmal job on protecting the borders. This comment that is so often repeated on FR, that the republicans had better watch out if they don't enforce the border.

Can you tell me what a better alternative is? More conservative republicans? That isn't much of a threat to the party. And what happens if those strong anti immigration republicans don't win the primarys over the same old slobs. Are you going to vote for a democrat over the republican for this one issue? Or are you going to throw your vote away on an independent in a vote of principal?

Maybe we should be taking a tip from the Illegal aliens that held the marches in so many cities. Lets all rally to get our asses to the borders for a weekend and spread out and completely shut it down. Lets do this repeatedly. Activism is the only way things will ever change.

Props to the Minutemen. They are doing the only thing possible to get the job done. They are even paying to build a fence. I have sent my donations, and plan a trip in the coming month to lend a hand. Have all of you anti immigration people done the same?


76 posted on 06/16/2006 11:32:05 AM PDT by ritewingwarrior
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To: dirtboy
If you'd bother to read the entire article, you would see that the group travelled in MAY. In addition, it isn't clear whether this is the Texas House members - it is likely it is from the way the article is worded.

So what if they traveled in May. As for whether or not it's clear which House members to which the article refers, I think the article's second and third paragraphs make it clear enough:

In fact, some Republican members of the House, upset by what they call the administration's seeming lack of concern for border security, are preparing to hold investigative hearings in San Diego and Laredo, Texas, early next month.

Members of the House Subcommittee on International Terrorism and Nonproliferation hope to expose serious security flaws that could potentially lead to terrorist attacks in the country, said Rep. Ted Poe, R-Texas, who is a member of the panel and has pushed for the hearings.

OK, now retreat back to your next prepared position.

Why do you and so many others around here feel the need to be a**holes?

77 posted on 06/16/2006 11:32:06 AM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: Wolfstar

I've got news for you, it wasn't planned months in advance.

It was organized very quickly following the death of Zarqawi as a momentum builder.


78 posted on 06/16/2006 11:32:30 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Small-L
"The president would appreciate the opportunity to visit with border sheriffs," said the White House letter written by La Rhonda M. Houston, deputy director of the Office of Appointments and Scheduling. "Regrettably, it will not be possible for us to arrange such a meeting. I know that you understand with the tremendous demands of the president's time, he must often miss special opportunities, as is the case this time."

He certainly found time to talk the illegals at the Diego Garcia Center.

79 posted on 06/16/2006 11:32:33 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: MineralMan
Hey, he went down there and had a look at the border for himself. Why would he need to meet with a bunch of county sheriffs and local legislators. He has experts on his staff who can tell him what he wants or needs to hear, right? He is the President.

Exactly right - The reality is this President talks with people concerning the border each and every week (if not daily). The silly as$ pathetic notion that if he doesn't speak with these Sheriff's it means anything (let alone the foolish suggestion that he wants to give America over to Mexico) is just ridiculous.

80 posted on 06/16/2006 11:32:49 AM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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