Jacob hiring: Was it legal?

Daily Herald(Utah) ^ | 6/16/06 | Alan Choate

[razorback-bert]

Silva visited with him about six weeks ago, he said, wearing an armed services uniform -- Jacob couldn't remember what branch of the military

Well it had big brass buttons and lots of gold fringe, I would say it was French.

[razorback-bert]

Well If it had

Too quick pulling the trigger.

[Sonny M]

Silva is going to become an American citizen, meaning he has completed every step.

I don't even think the guy was illegal in the first place, it looks like came here legally on a visa, and followed porcedure, and is going through the citizenship process.

Of course Tom Tancredo could correct this by arguing against immigration, both legal, illegal, and for the deportation of american citizens, that would ease things up.

I also view this as proof that there is no need for a guest worker program.

[Sonny M]

Dunno, but when was the last time time you set up a special company to pay your babysitter or your landscaper?

I've done it with a maintenence crew under advice from my accountant and lawyer....and no, they aren't illegal immigrants.

[A Troop 1-14 Cav]

Well, I understand what you were getting at even if "Dane" doesn't choose to "get it." I would never compare you or anyone else to a Clinton sycophant. Unless of course they were someone that actually behaved like one.

[A Troop 1-14 Cav]

(I believe that if it is a loophole, he did not break the law, so, legally what can be done to him?)


If no law was broken then nothing can be done to him. If however it comes out that he KNEW the company he was doing business with hired illegals, and a couple of them showed up at his door and he still kept them on, he should not be elected.

[JDB520]

Consider the source. Tony Yapias is the guy who organized the Illegal aliean march in Salt Lake City. And he is the one making the allegations?
http://www.boblonsberry.com/writings.cfm?go=4


<<<<<But back to Tony Yapias.

He organized a massive demonstration in downtown Salt Lake City demanding amnesty for illegal aliens.

And he’s backing Chris Cannon.

Tony Yapias organized a day long strike in Utah meant to show Latino economic might and to demand amnesty for illegal aliens.

And he’s backing Chris Cannon.

Tony Yapias is a Democrat. In fact, he’s the chairman of the Utah Hispanic Democratic Caucus.

And he’s backing Chris Cannon.

Tony Yapias protested Utah’s decision to stop giving drivers licenses to illegal aliens. He said it would be an inconvenience for them.

And he’s backing Chris Cannon.

At an Ogden public-safety forum, Tony Yapias claimed, “If a white kid and a Hispanic kid commit the same crime the white person will be more likely to get off without detention.” That is a divisive and racially charged claim that is not born out by the facts and statistics. Of Spanish-language interpreters in the court system he said, “There are very few bilingual and when positions do open they are given to returned missionaries instead of qualified minorities with experience and cultural competency.” That is another divisive and racially charged claim others say is simply not true.

And he’s backing Chris Cannon.

Tony Yapias is the head of a political-action group called Proyecto Latino de Utah which is endorsing just one House candidate this year – Chris Cannon.

Speaking of Utah Latinos and illegal aliens, Tony Yapias said, “I feel I have the authority to represent the community.”

And he’s backing Chris Cannon.

And how did he decide who he would support and who he would oppose in this year’s elections?

“It’s either black or white for me,” he said. “Is the candidate supporting us or not?”

And Tony Yapias has decided that Chris Cannon is and John Jacob is not.

And that fact ought to weigh heavily on the minds of Third District Republicans as they vote in the primary. In a race that has become a referendum on illegal immigration, Chris Cannon has the endorsement of the state’s leading advocate for illegal aliens and John Jacob does not<<<<<<<



http://www.boblonsberry.com/writings.cfm?go=4

If Tony Yapias is in Cannon's camp, that is the best reason to vote against him.

Any one in Utah seen all of the "Mexi-Cannon" signs yet?

[Lurker]

DANE ALERT!!

Danes forte is defending those who break our laws. He doesn't believe in punishing lawbreakers and has made that fact crystal clear on numerous occasions.

Attempting to talk sense to him is futile.

He believes there should not be any punishments for those who conspire to break the laws of the United States.

It is therefore in your best interest and the best interests of the forum to simply ignore this champion of criminals and spend your time engaged in something positive like reporting illegal aliens and those who hire them to the proper authorities.

That is all.

L

[brytlea]

Thank you for understanding what I was trying to say. I agree, if he knowingly broke the law, I wouldn't want him representing me. I am not positive from the article, so I don't have a positive position on this. I wouldn't vote for him if he skirted the spirit of the law, either, but my point was just that if it was a loophole, by definition it wasn't breaking the law, so technically there wouldn't be a legal action that could be taken against him.
susie

[brytlea]

Attempting to talk sense to him is futile.

You're right, and I know better. Mea culpa.

susie

[Dane]

OK, sounds like a great plan to me. Fine them and deport them. Even IF Jacob knew they were illegal, he has since seen the error of his way, and has corrected this thinking. Thankfully, he has since become anti-illegal, anti-open borders, which is what we want. GOOOOOOOO Jacob!!!! :o)

So you are granting Mr. Jacob, amnesty.

The irony and hypocrisy of you tancredo zealots.

[NRA2BFree]

So you are granting Mr. Jacob, amnesty.

The irony and hypocrisy of you tancredo zealots.

HELLOOOOOO....HERE'S A CLUE.....JACOB IS AN AMERICAN!! There is NO comparison. Are you really that dense?

IF you would just tell your family members to quit sneaking into America, and do it the RIGHT WAY it would be fine. It would also help if they wouldn't tell AMERICANS that America is THEIR COUNTRY. Please tell them!!!

[Dane]

HELLOOOOOO....HERE'S A CLUE.....JACOB IS AN AMERICAN!! There is NO comparison. Are you really that dense?

HELLLOOOOO... john jacob is one of those "evil" employers your ilk on FR are complaining about incessantly.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

[WayneM]

You are wasting your breath arguing again Mr.FR (Dane) Openborders.

For whatever reason he wants the flood of illegals to continue, and all illegals to be granted amnesty. If you doubt what I say, check his profile and previous posts.

[NRA2BFree]

HELLLOOOOO... john jacob is one of those "evil" employers your ilk on FR are complaining about incessantly.

HELLOOOOO.....IF Illegals weren't here, there would be NO ONE for ANYONE to hire!! Tell your family members to go back to Mexico and apply for immigration into America. Do it the right way and that would be OK.

[JohnnyZ]

AmishDude, you're a little confused.

You're quoting sinky as the basis for supporting Cannon over Jacob. SINKSPUR.

If a pro-gay RINO liberal like Sinky is supporting Cannon, that's pretty hard core proof that a conservative should back Jacob.

[AmishDude]

First, sinkspur provides more to any discussion than most freepers could hope to.

Second, if you don't like his assessment, check for yourself.

Third, I contend you'd be exchanging somebody you claim not to like on one issue for somebody who may, in fact, be a liberal on many issues -- including illegals.

[Plutarch]

You all are pathetic.

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