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To: MeanWestTexan

It was also common in Jesus day to cut the wine with water.


The question is would the God of the Bible council drinking alcohol in moderation after he called it poison?

Deu 32:33 Their wine [is] the poison of dragons, and the cruel venom of asps.

Would Jesus council us to avoid temptation and then sanction alcoholic beverages which lead to ruin?


59 posted on 06/15/2006 3:15:38 PM PDT by Blessed
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To: Blessed

"The question is would the God of the Bible council drinking alcohol in moderation after he called it poison?"

Actually, in the verse you quoted, He called the wine of the Enemy poison, not wine, in general:

27 but I dreaded the taunt of the enemy,
lest the adversary misunderstand
and say, 'Our hand has triumphed;
the LORD has not done all this.' "

28 They are a nation without sense,
there is no discernment in them.

29 If only they were wise and would understand this
and discern what their end will be!

30 How could one man chase a thousand,
or two put ten thousand to flight,
unless their Rock had sold them,
unless the LORD had given them up?

31 For their rock is not like our Rock,
as even our enemies concede.

32 Their vine comes from the vine of Sodom
and from the fields of Gomorrah.
Their grapes are filled with poison,
and their clusters with bitterness.

33 Their wine is the venom of serpents,
the deadly poison of cobras.

34 "Have I not kept this in reserve
and sealed it in my vaults?


61 posted on 06/15/2006 3:24:18 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: Blessed

"It was also common in Jesus day to cut the wine with water."

Sure. But not for the Passover Seder.

The Talmud calls for kosher red wine to be used for Passover. (I may be a Christian, but I am also a Jew; I could hunt this for you, if you need to.)

The Last Supper was a Jewish Passover.

Hence Jesus undeniably used old wine.


64 posted on 06/15/2006 3:29:33 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: Blessed

Right on, this is where so many justify their own desires with biblical text. They fail to use the entire Scripture as a means of interpreting. Rather they pull a text out of context and abuse it for their own selfish endulgences.


107 posted on 06/17/2006 12:00:58 PM PDT by evangmlw ("God Is Definitely Conservative")
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