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BAE hit by Airbus delay (A380)
The Irish Examiner. ^ | 15 June 2006 | Michael Harrison

Posted on 06/14/2006 7:22:31 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative

BAE Systems was caught in the fall-out today after last night’s warning from Airbus that deliveries of its new A380 superjumbo had been put back.

Shares in EADS, which owns 80% of Airbus, lost around a third of their value in Paris today, while BAE was affected as investors feared it may end up with less money from the planned sale of its 20% stake in Airbus.

BAE shares were at the top of the FTSE 100 Index fallers board today with a drop of more than 3%, wiping almost £400m (€585.8m) from its market value. Engine-maker Rolls-Royce, which will benefit from contracts throughout the plane’s life, was another casualty with its shares down 2%.

In a statement last night, Airbus pledged to deliver the first 555-seat aircraft by the end of the year but added that production bottlenecks would cut deliveries of the world’s biggest passenger jet by two-thirds to nine in 2007.

EADS blamed problems in the definition, manufacturing and installation of electrical systems and wiring harnesses. It forecast potential delivery delays of six to seven months and estimated the problems could cost the company €500m a year in lost earnings between 2007 and 2010.

Virgin Atlantic, Qantas Airways and Emirates are among A380 customers, with Singapore Airlines due to receive its first delivery later this year.

Qantas, which has ordered 12 of the new planes, will hold talks with Airbus over the next two weeks to discuss the delay. It is among airlines that may seek compensation and possible short-term replacement aircraft.

BAE is in the process of negotiating a price for its 20% stake after exercising its option to sell the stake to Franco-German EADS last week.

If representatives for the two sides do not come up with an agreed figure, an independent investment bank will be asked to adjudicate.

The company said it did not expect the delivery delays to impact on the valuation process, which a spokeswoman said would be based on the “medium and long-term viability of the Airbus business”.

BAE announced its intention in April to sell its share of the Airbus business, which could be worth around £3bn (€4.4bn). The company said it believed the time was right to sell as it looks to pursue a transatlantic defence and aerospace strategy.

Around 13,000 workers are employed building wings for the Airbus, mainly at Broughton in North Wales and Filton, in Bristol.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: a380; airbus; whalejet; whiteelephant

1 posted on 06/14/2006 7:22:32 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: COEXERJ145; microgood; liberallarry; cmsgop; shaggy eel; RayChuang88; Larry Lucido; namsman; ...

If you want on or off my aerospace ping list, please contact me by Freep mail.

2 posted on 06/14/2006 7:23:16 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

Buy American (if you call Boeing really American made any more)


3 posted on 06/14/2006 7:23:59 PM PDT by llevrok (The next "greatest generation" is now.)
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To: llevrok

Ah, the A-380--so graceful--like a manatee with wings.


4 posted on 06/14/2006 7:28:32 PM PDT by exit82 (If Democrats can lead, then I'm Chuck Norris.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
BAE was affected as investors feared it may end up with less money from
the planned sale of its 20% stake in Airbus.


Timing is EVERYTHING.

Reminds me of the fellow that bought a house in a landslide area out in
CA (the one next to Highway 101).
He got a steal of a buy about a decade ago, right after a nearby landslide.
I think he paid something like $30-60K.
Last year he was thinking about selling as the hot real estate market had
got his house value up into the neighborhood of $400K.

Last year's landslide took out the uninsured property before he
got around to even putting it on the market.
5 posted on 06/14/2006 7:29:19 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Paleo Conservative

One would almost think that EADS knew that they had to release some bad news about the 380 and chose this time to help drive down the price of the BAE shares.

schu


6 posted on 06/14/2006 7:30:06 PM PDT by schu
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To: schu
One would almost think that EADS knew that they had to release some bad news about the 380 and chose this time to help drive down the price of the BAE shares.

Here's a link to an article in the Independent that says BAE is alleging that. I couldn't post that article due to copyright restrictions on Free Republic.

BAE launches attack on EADS over Airbus superjumbo warning

The Independent UK
By Michael Harrison, Business Editor
Published: 15 June 2006


7 posted on 06/14/2006 7:35:30 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: exit82

Paint the bloody thing safety yellow, and it's twenty school buses with wings.

My only questions are how long before the first cancellation and who's going to be the sensible soul to be at the head of the stampede to follow.

Anybody else recall the Edsel?

This deal's developing the same symptoms.


8 posted on 06/14/2006 7:35:35 PM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet (I can't really accept a welcome home until the last MIA does.)
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To: exit82
Ah, the A-380--so graceful--like a manatee with wings.

Pigs do fly!

9 posted on 06/14/2006 7:38:37 PM PDT by stboz
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet

I think the a380 passenger sales are based on anticipated parts sales. It HAS to have been TOO good deals to push this beamoth as a passenger plane.

If orders are canceled do officials get to keep the bribes?


10 posted on 06/14/2006 8:08:49 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Paleo Conservative
The money shot:

Boeing rubbed salt in Airbus's wounds, meanwhile, by announcing a $4.5bn (£2.4bn) order from Singapore for up to 20 of its latest 787 Dreamliner jets. This brings orders for the plane to 383 from 29 customers - putting it far ahead in the market of the Airbus A350, which is having to be extensively redesigned.

11 posted on 06/14/2006 8:16:55 PM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Join our Folding@Home team (Team# 36120) keyword: folding)
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I do a lot of flying. I can't wait to fly in a 787.


12 posted on 06/14/2006 8:39:55 PM PDT by Jotmo (I Had a Bad Experience With the CIA and Now I'm Gonna Show You My Feminine Side - Swirling Eddies)
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To: Paleo Conservative

The new boeing 747 will take about 90% of all planned Airbus 380 planned builds.


13 posted on 06/14/2006 8:44:20 PM PDT by HighWheeler (Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the country. - Marion Barry)
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet
You may be on to something, other than the yellow. Airbus should be able to sell the suckers to FEMA.

With yellow, "School bus" Nagin wouldn't stoop to having his voters evac'd in them, next hurricane.

What's the range of an A380? Can it go from NOLA to Elbonia, non-stop?

14 posted on 06/14/2006 9:12:38 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Paleo Conservative

The Brits and the Franks, the only reason they stop fighting each other is to fight the Germans. ;-)

schu


15 posted on 06/14/2006 9:41:30 PM PDT by schu
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To: Paleo Conservative

I was just watching a National Geographic special on the A380 project. What a total disaster.
The german factory where they were going to build the freighter version of the A380 spent two years in delays fighting german environmental activists who claimed the longer runway and three new buildings were going to hurt the nearby river and cause too much damage to (GET THIS!!) the way the wind moves through the nearby city.

They only have one factory building built, the runway still hasn't been lengthened, and two empty shells of iron work that were going to be the other factory buildings sit there not being able to be completed. Airbust has told these people about all the jobs gained and economic gains for the city, but its still all locked up in the courts.

Airbust is now saying they might have to move the whole operation to somewhere else.


16 posted on 06/14/2006 9:56:02 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Paleo Conservative
The A380 is costing Airbus the mid-size market where the Boeing 787 Dreamliner reigns king, and where production will struggle to keep up with 787 orders. For Airbus the decision to invest in the A380 Superjumbo is the biggest misinvestment in aerospace history since Concorde.
17 posted on 06/15/2006 6:09:16 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

China.


18 posted on 06/15/2006 11:39:42 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Yo-Yo

If there is an operation they would consider moving to China, it would be the A350.

Airbust knows now that Boeing was right and the 787 are the type of planes the airlines are going to want now and in the future.
China will be the largest potential buyer of commercial aircraft over the next couple decades. Airbust will be in total panic to resurrect itself. They will sell out a major portion of their operations to the Chicoms to stay alive and have factories building planes there to push sales there.


19 posted on 06/15/2006 12:05:02 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
Airbus A320 family aircraft to be assembled in China's Tianjin
20 posted on 06/15/2006 12:08:08 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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