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To: catholicfreeper

Let us be clear: This is not "Church Teaching",
This is liberal political advocacy that happens to be supported and promulgated by the bishops' political organization in DC.

This position is as wrong-headed and ill-advised as their 1980s foray into opposed Reagan's wise and correct defense policies:


http://www.cmpage.org/betrayal/chapt2.html
"Bishops, obviously not satisfied to merely lead their flocks, have also claimed expertise on American weaponry. Some of the Catholic bishops involved in the 1983 pastoral letter on nuclear arms and defense told a House Foreign Affairs Committee meeting in 1984 that they did not approve of the MX missile or the Strategic Defense Initiative. They maintained that the MX would not provide protection and the Strategic Defense Initiative would not work. Since trained scientists are still debating the merits of the Strategic Defense Initiative, it is strange that the bishops seem to have informed knowledge on this highly technical subject."

" They later wrote a poor imitation of the Catholic bishops' 1983 pastoral letter about defense, titled "The Nuclear Crisis and the Pursuit of Peace." In it the bishops, like the Catholic bishops, opposed not only the use of nuclear weapons, but also said even "nuclear deterrence" could not "receive the churches' blessing." The bishops did not even attempt to justify their positions with thoughtful, in-depth studies of theology, but largely depended on waving the concept of "shalom" - which they misinterpreted as "harmony between humanity and all of God's creatures" on this earth - and using half-pietistic, half-trendy rhetoric. "But we write also in gratitude for the swelling chorus of those who cry No to nuclear weapons, No to poverty, No to racism, No to sexism - and Yes to the things that make for peace," the letter said. The study document also used the concept of "shalom."
Both the letter and the study document which accompanied it assumed a moral equivalency between the United States and the Soviet Union. They suggested that the nuclear arms race is a disease which afflicts both countries. In doing so they totally ignored the differences in American and Soviet political systems, in effect putting totalitarianism and democracy, and American and Soviet foreign policy, on the same moral level."

Phooey to their wrong and liberal policies on relations with USSR, and phoeey to their wrong and liberal policies on immigration.


89 posted on 06/14/2006 8:29:11 PM PDT by WOSG (Do your duty, be a patriot, support our Troops - VOTE!)
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To: WOSG

MEGA bump


93 posted on 06/14/2006 8:30:51 PM PDT by garbageseeker
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To: WOSG

I am afraid your wrong. I am not saying everything the American Bishops say is infalliable but this document s pretty much right on with the teaching of the Church Universal. If you noticed John Paul II is mentioned also. Furthermore this is pretty align with statements from Rome itself on the migration of human beings. Also its pretty much aligned with the Catechism as to the responsibilities Governments, on the family, on the dignity of human person, on borders, and on immigrants

THe Bishops are not saying that there should be open borders or that America should give up its sovernity. It is speaking up for millions of American children though that might be seperated from their parents or thrust into poverty. At least someone is speaking up for those forgotten Americans in this debate


99 posted on 06/14/2006 8:35:37 PM PDT by catholicfreeper (I am Blogging for the GOP and Victory O6 at www.theponderingamerican.blogspot.com)
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To: WOSG

The USCCB is making themselves look foolish with this foray into an arena that they are clearly incompetent on which to comment. I wish they'd spend a little more time and press releases on battling for issues of faith and morals.


119 posted on 06/14/2006 8:54:04 PM PDT by Proud2BAmerican
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