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Injured Reno Judge popular target for angry parents (fathers' rights v. judicial tyrrany?)
LasVegas Sun/AP ^ | 6/12/06 | Angie Wagner

Posted on 06/14/2006 4:23:59 AM PDT by ProCivitas

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To: wideawake

Wow...this really hits home with me because I am with a man who went through a terrible divorce with false accusations.

Yes, the court should err on the side of investigating. But realistically what happens is, like in our case, she made alligations just before major court decisions....far enough to get the allegations on the record, too close to have them properly investigated, and then refuted, before major decisions like custody and alimony are settled.

Should she have known she was nuts? Could he have been nicer, sweeter etc. of course. But to pay financially for the rest of his life? When she was the one who broke up the family and walked away? If she is unfulfilled and wants a chance at something "more"...fine...have your midlife crisis and move on. But to punish the kids without access to Dad while this *#*$*#^ get s worked out...and even worse making HIM pay your for the priviledge of breaking up the family? Not fair in my book.

If these guys are so horrible, and these feminists are so empowered as to not put up with it, why do they keep leaning on the men for the money? Child support I get...we all owe that...but alimony? Please.


61 posted on 06/14/2006 10:07:10 AM PDT by hilaryrhymeswithrich (It's all about the swagger......)
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To: OldArmy52
$10,000 a month for the ex-wife to spend?

Yes--to maintain the lifestyle they had together as a family. Do you think the wife should have been punished for her husband's multiple infidelities?

62 posted on 06/14/2006 10:13:22 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: Rakkasan1
IOW, "no-fault" was the beginning of the end of the family.

Bears repeating. I'd love to see the 'no fault' divorce laws repealed.

63 posted on 06/14/2006 10:20:55 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: hilaryrhymeswithrich
You make an excellent point: there is no reason for alimony whatsoever.

Child support payments should be made into an account in the child's name with the custodial parent as trustee, accountable as any trustee is to rules of fiduciary conduct.

64 posted on 06/14/2006 10:21:09 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
family courts operate much like Halliburton, unregulated and out of control

WTF is that doing in there? LOL

65 posted on 06/14/2006 10:21:40 AM PDT by rattrap
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To: MEGoody

I second the motion.


66 posted on 06/14/2006 10:22:04 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: MEGoody
I'd love to see the 'no fault' divorce laws repealed.

too many legislators are/were lawyers and lawyers would hate to see it go away.and so it never will.

67 posted on 06/14/2006 10:24:54 AM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!)
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To: fatnotlazy

I believe that any person involved in a divorce who makes allegations of abuse, unfit parenting, etc they cannot prove (or are later proven false) should experience whatever they were trying to foist on their spouse, e.g. loss of visitation/custody, payment of child support and/or alimoney.


68 posted on 06/14/2006 10:25:27 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: wideawake
90% of these cases would never happen if the husband was more careful and less stupid in choosing a spouse...

Exactly. Probably more like 99.9%.

69 posted on 06/14/2006 10:30:09 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: wideawake

I LOVE that idea. How that would change the dynamics! And it would give both parents the feeling that things are being done FOR the children and not against them.


70 posted on 06/14/2006 10:36:29 AM PDT by hilaryrhymeswithrich (It's all about the swagger......)
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To: LWalk18
As far as false allegations, judges walk a fine line. If the allegations of domestic violence or child abuse are false but are believed by a judge, he or she is blamed. If the allegations are true but not believed by a judge, and later a child is killed by the abusive parent, guess who also gets the blame. No one wants a dead child on their conscience, so they follow up on allegations if they are even semi-believable. Clearing up takes time and money, but lawyers, courts, psychiatrists, etc. all have to eat just like anyone else.

Well, it's an interesting idea - let's blame the people who use the court on the court's failures.

Actually - false accusations ARE NOT PROSECUTED. That is the main reason they are so prevalent. A false accusation is totally unilateral, and done without fear of being sanctioned.

The reason the huge problem is not addressed is because of the ongoing feminization of family courts - to prosecute those would be "anti-women", and the "domestic abuse" crew pays advocates to sit in court and identify judges that might be "unfriendly to women" so they can bring strong political forces to bear on those people.

Where do you think the billion dollars a year spent on VAWA goes?

Unfortunately as a result we have created a court system which has political objectives - rather than legal objectives. And it runs across the board - the fact now is most Americans are just plain disgusted with the US courts.

That cases judicial advocates to wring their hands and bemoan the public increasing contempt of the legal system.

Geeze, like those people running the legal system had nothing to do with it.

My advice: Stay the hell out of court!

71 posted on 06/14/2006 10:38:10 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: LWalk18
Lots of people, yes particularly women, see the warning signs but choose to act solely on their feelings.

Men see them too, but decide to act solely on their, um, other feelings. Look at the popularity of Angelina Jolie on FR for an example. Plenty of men here would marry her in an instant in spite of the overwhelming evidence that she is a lunatic. Men have a bad habit of marrying the best looking woman who will have them, regardless of her personal character. Acting shocked in divorce court later on is self-deception - most of the time he knew she was a psycho going in, but decided to disregard that inconvenient truth in light of her physical charms and the short-term ability to impress his friends with what he has on his arm.

It's the same impulse as the woman marrying the charming abuser thinking she can change him - vanity goeth before a fall. ;)

72 posted on 06/14/2006 10:40:36 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: rattrap; aculeus; Senator Bedfellow; Dog Gone; Billthedrill; hellinahandcart; Petronski; ...
Bonnie Russell, founder of http://www.FamilyLawCourts.com , said family courts operate much like Halliburton, unregulated and out of control.

While you’re at it, throw in Vietnam, Watergate, and the 2000 election.

73 posted on 06/14/2006 10:50:20 AM PDT by dighton
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To: Rakkasan1

Couldn't agree more. And...it's usually cupcake that decides she "just isn't happy" anymore.


74 posted on 06/14/2006 10:51:24 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
...vanity goeth before a fall. ;)

No - a haughty spirit goeth before a fall!

CA....

75 posted on 06/14/2006 11:11:10 AM PDT by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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To: wideawake
And yes, it seems that fake child abuse allegations are common enough in these proceedings, but the court's hands are tied.

How do you solve the dilemma?

When the investigation is complete, and abuse allegations are found to be false, disbar the lawyers presenting them and throw the accuser in jail. In other words, if you make the allegation, you'd better have proof.

76 posted on 06/14/2006 11:14:38 AM PDT by Orbiting_Rosie's_Head (13EAEE4)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
"Judge Chuck Weller in my belief suffers from 'God complex' and possibly other things as well."

Numerous Internet postings described how Weller makes decisions before he hears cases, is unsympathetic and rules like a tyrant."

He sounds like the typical judge to me.

77 posted on 06/14/2006 11:18:43 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (Ann Coulter = THE CONSERVATIVE DIVA)
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To: Rakkasan1
Yes, the lawyers are running everything now.

Everything!

CA....

78 posted on 06/14/2006 11:25:25 AM PDT by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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To: dighton; rattrap; Senator Bedfellow; Dog Gone; Billthedrill; hellinahandcart; Petronski
Bonnie Russell, founder of http://www.FamilyLawCourts.com , said family courts operate much like Halliburton, unregulated and out of control.

Another knee-jerk jerk checks in.

79 posted on 06/14/2006 11:47:54 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
When the investigation is complete, and abuse allegations are found to be false, disbar the lawyers presenting them and throw the accuser in jail.

Yeah, but just try to bring a law like that forward, and watch who starts screaming.

80 posted on 06/14/2006 12:05:23 PM PDT by Fido969
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