[Man50D]

Fair Tax ping!

[stopem]

" "With its limited resources and power, how can it do something as complex as watch to see if a confused mob of aspiring roofers walks across a line in the desert? Or enforce laws against hiring illegal aliens? Or most intimidating of all, how can it find illegal aliens already within America?

"After all, they are so well hidden, standing there on the corner of McGrath and Broadway in Somerville, Mass., every morning from sunrise to lunch, waiting to be picked up by anonymous labor johns. Really, how does one capture people so cautious that they jump into the back of any truck that pulls up? I mean, this isn’t something easy like going to the moon or establishing Democracy in all the world. "

LOL! Exactly! We have laws that are totally ignored. On purpose I suppose with a wink and a nod. Illegal invasion by muggers stealing from taxpayers.

[xcamel]

Somehow, other than being simplistic, I don't think OTM terrorists sneaking across the border care a lick what kind of tax system we have.

[seasoned traditionalist]

Somebody sneaking in to take a job away from an American doesn’t bother Washington at all. But can you imagine the outrage and panic if that same person were sneaking in to try to sell Americans tax-free iPods?

Don't know much about the Fair Tax proposal, but from what I've heard/read, this article now brings it all into focus, proper perspective and "common sense," attributes--none of which, of course, applies inside the Beltway.

This article hit home in that those of us who have that nasty habit of indulging in tobacco products (yes, smoking) have seen the results of the Gestapo-Tax-Zealots (led by New York's "Spritzer") as they threatened, cajoled, and ultimately "convinced" major credit card companies NOT to allow payments for tobacco products ordered online--primarily to Indian (sorry, native) controlled outlets.

It had nothing to do with smoking, health, cancer, kids, etc., it was all about THE MONEY (tax revenues) they were losing as a result of their own actions and the Billions of Dollars in lawsuit settlements which they received (and promptly deposited in the General Revenue and spend on whatever--and was apparently, not nearly enough for these money-grubbing-SOB's-Hacks)which led to higher prices; which led many of us to seek alternate and less expensive sources.

The IRS even forces employers to withhold a portion of wages earned by restaurant/bar/beauty salon, etc. employees, as it (IRS) assumes they (employees) earn tips, which they would not normally report.

Thus, if all were "forced" to pay their "fair share" thru a Fair Tax (including illegals) can anyone doubt who will be leading the charge and scream and holler the most AGAINST this proposal?

It will be demonized as "discriminatory," don't you know?

[SR 50]

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[wolfcreek]

If the *Fair Tax* was passed into law today, would the illegal immigration issue be put on the back burner? To me, it's only a fraction of the problem. The security and health issues, I hope, are at the top of most people's concern.

[Humble Servant]

I've got a lot to listen to on this subject, as I've only begun musing about it.

What about my concern that creating a significant consumption tax creates a significant motivation to black marketeers, large and small, nefarious and seemingly innocent?

Also, I'm sure this is addressed, but how do you handle the inherently regressive impacts? No taxes on essentials?

Further, what to do with the new class of unemployed IRS and CPA minions who now will doubtless roam the streets in gangs, menacing our peaceful poulace with forms, charts and leftover gobbledygook?

[maine-iac7]

This year the Fair Tax bill (HR 25) has an impressive 57 co-sponsors in Congress and it gains support every year. The added support of millions of Americans opposed to open borders could push the bill into the realm of real possibility.

YES -BUT

it is NOW we must act.

If we lean heavy on DC - with our support and DEMAND that this get done THIS year, it will take effect next Jan. - never again a 'tax day' no more IRS.

But if we don't get this done now - we may never get another chance. The dimRAts are not going to want to loose their 'brown shirt' division, the IRS.

The FAIR TAX and the abolishment of the IRS will bring the greatest freedom any of us have ever known. And it will turn the control of gov't back to US the People.

the only 'reporting' will be a post card size form every year to report - sent to the social security office - the name and SS# of those in our household.

No reporting of who we work for, how much money we make, nada...

[ancient_geezer]

A Taxreform bump for you all.

If anyone would like to be added to this ping list let me know.

John Linder in the House(HR25) & Saxby Chambliss Senate(S25) offer a comprehensive bill to kill all federal income, SS/Medicare payroll, and gift/estate taxes outright replacing them with with a national retail sales tax administered by the states.

H.R.25,S.25
A bill to promote freedom, fairness, and economic opportunity by repealing the income tax and other taxes, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, and enacting a national retail sales tax to be administered primarily by the States.

Refer for additional information:

• AllTheWeb search: "national sales tax" OR "national retail sales tax" OR "fairtax"

[pigdog]

Another great article from H. E. and right on the money - thanks "mucho"!!!