Posted on 06/13/2006 3:02:44 PM PDT by Mike Bates
In the controversy over Ann Coulter's comments about the group of 9/11 widows, there is one critical question, from the point of view of ensuring standards of accuracy in the media. How does Coulter know it to be true that, "I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much." There is no evidence whatsoever that those women enjoyed their husbands' deaths, and Coulter offers none. The only "evidence" for this preposterous and hurtful claim is that the women became activists and sought the media spotlight and took a political position at odds with that of Coulter. But what does that prove?
I think Coulter probably would have been correct to say that the women appeared to enjoy the media attention. You don't go on these shows unless you enjoy them to some degree. But enjoying a death? And the death of a loved one when fatherless children were left behind? Coulter's comments are not only false but cruel. She has also made other disparaging personal comments about the women.
In journalism, facts and truth are supposed to matter. Opinions are allowed, and Coulter, a columnist for Human Events and many other newspapers, is entitled to her own opinions.
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If the matter only involved personal opinions about people or things, Coulter's comments wouldn't really be newsworthy or significant. But she is claiming to have inside knowledge of the personal psychology of this group of women who lost their husbands on 9/11. That is why the comments have generated so much outrageexcept from a few conservatives unwilling to criticize her.
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As I said earlier, that is the conclusion one must come to if we are to assume the said marriage grants them infallible status.
I may have misstated about the Jersey Girls' vs. Democrat/Media machine's motivation, but the Jersey Girls have certainly done nothing to dispute it, and in fact seem to revel in it.
I might also add that, as they have taken up cutting campaign commercials and talking points for the DNC, the Jersey Girls can be lumped into the same group as "The Democrat/Media Machine." Separating them makes no sense.
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Let's make it real simple for both of us.
If you had a sister and your sister's beloved husband was killed in the towers on 9/11 and then your sister spoke out in the media for any reason about the lack of security that morning of the tragedy .......... and then a woman like Ann Coulter challenged your sister's marriage to her loving husband with an ignorant "divorce comment", would you think that comment was kosher, at all proper?
Just answer the question on a personal level for once.
Just try for once.
On 1 and 2, we agree.
On 3 and 4, we disagree--I've stated my reasons already, so I don't think we need to belabor the point any further.
On number 5, we will also have to disagree... but I'd also like to add that earning invective from liberals seems to be high on her list of priorities. It is her MO, without which her points would get zero airtime on the likes of Today and The Tonight Show with Jay Leno.
How do I know this?
Because this has been said for years... by Sinkspur... by other freepers... by talk radio... by authors...
It is not until someone showed the media the logical conculsion of their assumptions--without pulling any punches--that people became offended. This offense is misdirected--for it should be directed at the logic that gave rise to the conclusion, not the person that pointed it out.
However, I am guessing that Ann knew beforehand (and who couldn't have guessed it?) that it would cause such a stir among liberals. Ann often says that liberals get mad at people who show them the logical result of their thinking and call them names as a result.
Ann isn't above name calling, as she has admitted (as if this needed admitting). She just backs up her name calling with aforementioned arguments. The left doesn't know how to respond.
And she also has a point in her most recent column: The Left no longer seems concerned that she has called them Godless. They're fixated on this point of her book as if to show that she's being mean, but all they're doing is proving her point.
Well, first of all... I'm not one to run from criticism--or logic. And if my family members were making a spectacle of themselves and dishonoring the memories, I would in fact say something to them.
And, I would never say that, because of this tragedy, they are immune from the confines of logic and reason. And if someone did say it, and if someone else pointed the logical conclusion of this reasoning... No, I wouldn't see that as an attack on them, but as an attack on the reasoning, which may or not have anything to do with them.
If they are deserving of criticism, they should get it. It's really that simple. Would it hurt? Perhaps. But sometimes the truth does indeed hurt.
I would think that what would hurt more is that my family members are making spectacles out of themselves in their grief. No one likes to see their loved ones on the wrong path.
If the attacks coming in were unjustified, then my response would depend on what would accomplish the most good: Rip into them or ignore them.
Just maybe, I say just maybe, could it be that she is expressing, in a very salty way, her beliefs. Maybe that would be too hard for you to accept. You seem to be stuck on the sale of books. But maybe it could be this is her avenue to address the real subject, the liberal way over the top lying skunks that dribble garbage on all avenues of media every hour of the day. She succeeded, and what a hit. Fantastic. Got your attention, didn't it?
The real question is who are these Jersey Girls. And their motives?
When Monica Lewinski's mom was called on to testify at the grand jury hearing, my mom expressed some serious indignation that a mother could legally be called to testify against her daughter. She told me that she would go to jail before having to do that for me.
I told her as lovingly as I could (paraphrasing), "Mom, if I ever give you a reason to testify against me, I expect you to be completely open and truthful. If I give you a reason, the fault is mine, not the law's and not the prosecutor's, and I would deserve to pay for my poor judgment."
It's easy to say all of this now standing on the outside, and it's entirely possible that I might feel differently if I ever WERE in that situation. So I'm just stating what my opinion is NOW, while still of sound mind and unhampered by the bias of any hedonistic self-interest.
Really, I'm done trying to pull teeth.
You most likely are not a dishonest fellow, but that's how you are coming off.
Maybe you WERE raised by wolves.
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You are so devious, you should construct crossword puzzles for the New York Slimes.
I did so. I said that it may hurt--on a personal level--but that hurt does not mean it wasn't justified.
I also explained under what situations my family member may be at fault (in which case I would pity them, but not excuse them), and if they weren't at fault, I explained that I may or may not address it.
How does that not answer the question?
Call her up, Annie. Have dinner. Settle things.
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You know, not everyone can be an Olympic figure skater (sad to say). :)
No... Just a Marine. :)
Cool!
Hey, Sean Vanity says that Jay Leno asked Annie a question last night on his show. I missed it. Sean is teasing this question now (Ann's coming on his show some time later......... but the question from Leno was , "Ann, have you ever had sex with a liberal?" Wow .............. what a country!
Can you imagine Johnny Carson asking David Brinkley if he ever had sex with a communist? LOL.
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Anyhow.... you are maddening, but I really am looking forward to seeing you on other threads.
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Wasn't Johnny Carson a communist? ;)
The Tonight Show interview is available to watch on YouTube.com, if you're interested.
While I was watching that episode, I jumped over to watch an episode of "Politically Incorrect." I am absolutely S-T-U-N-N-E-D at how completely dense liberals are. From global warming to "population control," these people don't get it, and I'm becoming convinced that they never will. Facts mean NOTHING to them, and they have no qualms about violating rules of decorum. The audience was completely on their side, and as was the custom on that show, the libs outnumbered the conservatives 4-1. We reply sheepishly at our own peril.
That is true!
Oh hell you're right, let Annie use the sharp knives and the cannon balls.
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Did Annie say if she ever was "with" a lib????
Her answer was, "No." When Jay pushed her on it, she said she read about it in Esquire, and it didn't seem too appealing.
In case you didn't see this thread.
This is great!
Here's another:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1649639/posts
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