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Ann Coulter Was Wrong
Accuracy In Media ^ | 6/13/2006 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 06/13/2006 3:02:44 PM PDT by Mike Bates

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To: beyond the sea
Do you think in a decent society a woman like Ann should challenge another woman's marriage with her husband after the husband's very unhappy death. If you think that is kosher, then you were raised by wolves.

As I said earlier, that is the conclusion one must come to if we are to assume the said marriage grants them infallible status.

I may have misstated about the Jersey Girls' vs. Democrat/Media machine's motivation, but the Jersey Girls have certainly done nothing to dispute it, and in fact seem to revel in it.

641 posted on 06/15/2006 9:14:25 AM PDT by outlawcam (No time to waste. Now get moving.)
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To: beyond the sea
Me: I may have misstated about the Jersey Girls' vs. Democrat/Media machine's motivation, but the Jersey Girls have certainly done nothing to dispute it, and in fact seem to revel in it.

I might also add that, as they have taken up cutting campaign commercials and talking points for the DNC, the Jersey Girls can be lumped into the same group as "The Democrat/Media Machine." Separating them makes no sense.

642 posted on 06/15/2006 9:18:40 AM PDT by outlawcam (No time to waste. Now get moving.)
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To: outlawcam
I do not understand your words at all. You work to confuse things.

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Let's make it real simple for both of us.

If you had a sister and your sister's beloved husband was killed in the towers on 9/11 and then your sister spoke out in the media for any reason about the lack of security that morning of the tragedy .......... and then a woman like Ann Coulter challenged your sister's marriage to her loving husband with an ignorant "divorce comment", would you think that comment was kosher, at all proper?

Just answer the question on a personal level for once.

Just try for once.

643 posted on 06/15/2006 9:24:54 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Scientists Are Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
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To: beyond the sea
To your points, I understand the points as you make them.

On 1 and 2, we agree.

On 3 and 4, we disagree--I've stated my reasons already, so I don't think we need to belabor the point any further.

On number 5, we will also have to disagree... but I'd also like to add that earning invective from liberals seems to be high on her list of priorities. It is her MO, without which her points would get zero airtime on the likes of Today and The Tonight Show with Jay Leno.

How do I know this?

Because this has been said for years... by Sinkspur... by other freepers... by talk radio... by authors...

It is not until someone showed the media the logical conculsion of their assumptions--without pulling any punches--that people became offended. This offense is misdirected--for it should be directed at the logic that gave rise to the conclusion, not the person that pointed it out.

However, I am guessing that Ann knew beforehand (and who couldn't have guessed it?) that it would cause such a stir among liberals. Ann often says that liberals get mad at people who show them the logical result of their thinking and call them names as a result.

Ann isn't above name calling, as she has admitted (as if this needed admitting). She just backs up her name calling with aforementioned arguments. The left doesn't know how to respond.

And she also has a point in her most recent column: The Left no longer seems concerned that she has called them Godless. They're fixated on this point of her book as if to show that she's being mean, but all they're doing is proving her point.

644 posted on 06/15/2006 9:34:02 AM PDT by outlawcam (No time to waste. Now get moving.)
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To: beyond the sea
would you think that comment was kosher, at all proper?

Well, first of all... I'm not one to run from criticism--or logic. And if my family members were making a spectacle of themselves and dishonoring the memories, I would in fact say something to them.

And, I would never say that, because of this tragedy, they are immune from the confines of logic and reason. And if someone did say it, and if someone else pointed the logical conclusion of this reasoning... No, I wouldn't see that as an attack on them, but as an attack on the reasoning, which may or not have anything to do with them.

If they are deserving of criticism, they should get it. It's really that simple. Would it hurt? Perhaps. But sometimes the truth does indeed hurt.

I would think that what would hurt more is that my family members are making spectacles out of themselves in their grief. No one likes to see their loved ones on the wrong path.

If the attacks coming in were unjustified, then my response would depend on what would accomplish the most good: Rip into them or ignore them.

645 posted on 06/15/2006 9:51:45 AM PDT by outlawcam (No time to waste. Now get moving.)
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To: rcocean
WOW!!!

I don't know what is more impressive. That Sinkspur would obsess that much out about a single person over the span of just one week? Or that you would go through the time and effort to extract all of that obsession!

Peace. (and not the Islamic kind)
646 posted on 06/15/2006 10:54:57 AM PDT by Dr._Joseph_Warren
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To: sinkspur
She's an author who knows how to sell her work and draw attention to herself.

Just maybe, I say just maybe, could it be that she is expressing, in a very salty way, her beliefs. Maybe that would be too hard for you to accept. You seem to be stuck on the sale of books. But maybe it could be this is her avenue to address the real subject, the liberal way over the top lying skunks that dribble garbage on all avenues of media every hour of the day. She succeeded, and what a hit. Fantastic. Got your attention, didn't it?

The real question is who are these Jersey Girls. And their motives?

647 posted on 06/15/2006 11:07:11 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: beyond the sea
Just answer the question on a personal level for once.

When Monica Lewinski's mom was called on to testify at the grand jury hearing, my mom expressed some serious indignation that a mother could legally be called to testify against her daughter. She told me that she would go to jail before having to do that for me.

I told her as lovingly as I could (paraphrasing), "Mom, if I ever give you a reason to testify against me, I expect you to be completely open and truthful. If I give you a reason, the fault is mine, not the law's and not the prosecutor's, and I would deserve to pay for my poor judgment."

It's easy to say all of this now standing on the outside, and it's entirely possible that I might feel differently if I ever WERE in that situation. So I'm just stating what my opinion is NOW, while still of sound mind and unhampered by the bias of any hedonistic self-interest.

648 posted on 06/15/2006 11:46:46 AM PDT by outlawcam (No time to waste. Now get moving.)
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To: outlawcam
You did not answer the question once more........ fugettaboutit.

Really, I'm done trying to pull teeth.

You most likely are not a dishonest fellow, but that's how you are coming off.

Maybe you WERE raised by wolves.

;-)

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You are so devious, you should construct crossword puzzles for the New York Slimes.

649 posted on 06/15/2006 11:54:48 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Scientists Are Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
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To: beyond the sea
You did not answer the question once more........ fugettaboutit.

I did so. I said that it may hurt--on a personal level--but that hurt does not mean it wasn't justified.

I also explained under what situations my family member may be at fault (in which case I would pity them, but not excuse them), and if they weren't at fault, I explained that I may or may not address it.

How does that not answer the question?

650 posted on 06/15/2006 11:59:25 AM PDT by outlawcam (No time to waste. Now get moving.)
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To: outlawcam
Let's sum it all up in short.............. Annie's pent-up animosity here can be summed up in her unrelenting subliminal sexual tension toward the button-cute Kristin Breitweiser. Ann has a crush on dear Kristin.

Call her up, Annie. Have dinner. Settle things.

;-)

651 posted on 06/15/2006 12:01:12 PM PDT by beyond the sea (Scientists Are Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
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To: beyond the sea
Call her up, Annie. Have dinner. Settle things.

You know, not everyone can be an Olympic figure skater (sad to say). :)

652 posted on 06/15/2006 12:03:56 PM PDT by outlawcam (No time to waste. Now get moving.)
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To: beyond the sea
Maybe you WERE raised by wolves.

No... Just a Marine. :)

653 posted on 06/15/2006 12:06:41 PM PDT by outlawcam (No time to waste. Now get moving.)
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To: outlawcam
No... Just a Marine. :)

Cool!

Hey, Sean Vanity says that Jay Leno asked Annie a question last night on his show. I missed it. Sean is teasing this question now (Ann's coming on his show some time later......... but the question from Leno was , "Ann, have you ever had sex with a liberal?" Wow .............. what a country!

Can you imagine Johnny Carson asking David Brinkley if he ever had sex with a communist? LOL.

;-)

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Anyhow.... you are maddening, but I really am looking forward to seeing you on other threads.

;-)

654 posted on 06/15/2006 12:52:22 PM PDT by beyond the sea (Scientists Are Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
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To: beyond the sea
Can you imagine Johnny Carson asking David Brinkley if he ever had sex with a communist? LOL.

Wasn't Johnny Carson a communist? ;)

The Tonight Show interview is available to watch on YouTube.com, if you're interested.

While I was watching that episode, I jumped over to watch an episode of "Politically Incorrect." I am absolutely S-T-U-N-N-E-D at how completely dense liberals are. From global warming to "population control," these people don't get it, and I'm becoming convinced that they never will. Facts mean NOTHING to them, and they have no qualms about violating rules of decorum. The audience was completely on their side, and as was the custom on that show, the libs outnumbered the conservatives 4-1. We reply sheepishly at our own peril.

655 posted on 06/15/2006 1:08:05 PM PDT by outlawcam (No time to waste. Now get moving.)
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To: outlawcam
We reply sheepishly at our own peril.

That is true!

Oh hell you're right, let Annie use the sharp knives and the cannon balls.

;-)

656 posted on 06/15/2006 1:16:10 PM PDT by beyond the sea (Scientists Are Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
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To: outlawcam
The Tonight Show interview is available to watch on YouTube.com, if you're interested. While I was watching that episode,

Did Annie say if she ever was "with" a lib????

657 posted on 06/15/2006 1:18:24 PM PDT by beyond the sea (Scientists Are Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
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To: beyond the sea
Did Annie say if she ever was "with" a lib????

Her answer was, "No." When Jay pushed her on it, she said she read about it in Esquire, and it didn't seem too appealing.

658 posted on 06/15/2006 1:23:39 PM PDT by outlawcam (No time to waste. Now get moving.)
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To: outlawcam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1649874/posts

In case you didn't see this thread.

This is great!

659 posted on 06/15/2006 1:24:20 PM PDT by beyond the sea (Scientists Are Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
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To: outlawcam
LOL................ she must have been great.

Here's another:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1649639/posts

660 posted on 06/15/2006 1:31:40 PM PDT by beyond the sea (Scientists Are Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
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