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Microsoft draws fire for stealth test program
Cnet News ^ | 06/13/2006 | Joris Evers

Posted on 06/13/2006 11:45:10 AM PDT by Panerai

Millions of Windows users may unwittingly be test subjects for an unfinished Microsoft antipiracy tool.

The software maker has been delivering a prerelease version of Windows Genuine Advantage Notifications software to PCs as a "high priority" item in the built-in update feature in Windows. The tool, also known as WGA Notifications, is used to validate the authenticity of Windows software installed on a PC.

The move is a first for the software maker. Microsoft normally asks people to join test programs before it initiates the download of any such trial software.

"I don't think that we have done it before," David Lazar, director of the Windows Genuine program at Microsoft, told CNET News.com on Monday. "WGA Notifications is a unique program."

Microsoft has been expanding its effort to distinguish pirated copies of Windows from legitimately acquired ones. The original WGA program, launched in September 2004, calls for people to validate their Windows installation when they download additional Microsoft software from a Microsoft Web site. In November, it introduced the separate WGA Notifications program. It now sends prerelease WGA Notifications software to people in a number of countries, including the United States.

But some security experts are troubled by Microsoft's decision to deliver prerelease software to millions of Windows users without clearly notifying them. People may not realize they are participating in a trial and have in essence become unsuspecting guinea pigs, they said.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: fraud; malware; microsoft; ms; notyourcomputer; redmond; spyware
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To: trebb
What do you suppose MAC Tiger would cost if MAC had the lion's share of the market and Microsoft had the share that MAC currently has?

Since you pose a hypothetical question, I'll give you a hypothetical answer: $89

21 posted on 06/13/2006 12:17:29 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Truth is the new lie.)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

"$299 for win xp professional ? Give me a f*** break !"

Hah, $135 from Newegg. $90 for XP Home, $110 for Media Center edition.

There's your break, happy?


22 posted on 06/13/2006 12:20:48 PM PDT by No.6 (www.fourthfightergroup.com)
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To: Panerai

I thought a lot of people on this board were happy with the "if you don't have anything to hide, why are you bothered" mentality. Jeesh. What's another bit of privacy gone? /s


23 posted on 06/13/2006 12:21:46 PM PDT by cowtowney
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To: RacerF150


If every copy was $60 there would be less theft.

C'mon, you think raising the price is incenting the public to NOT pirate??? That is kinda like raising the value and cost of a car incents thieves not to steal them.

Sure, That's gonna work!


24 posted on 06/13/2006 12:22:03 PM PDT by Riddick ( <----- This space left blank on purpose.)
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To: John Lenin
Windows XP should cost no more than $60.

It doesn't matter what it costs. I can do everything on my Linux laptop that I can do under Windows (including the games I enjoy)--and the software is much cheaper.

25 posted on 06/13/2006 12:22:49 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
Microsoft has bloated into one gigantic and inefficient bureaucracy where very little actual work is done.

All corporations are like this. Once the diversity pimps and lifers become entrenched, they grow by sheer bloated momentum. Kind of like the horizontal momentum a fat person experiences when they sit down.

26 posted on 06/13/2006 12:23:31 PM PDT by King Moonracer
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To: RacerF150
Reality being what it is, if something can break a computer it will happen, sooner or later.

In the old days it was undestood clearly that once you bought a piece of software, you could legally install it into as many computers as you wished, so long as you did not run more than one installation at the same time.

That is no longer possible, since the operating system checks the hardware configuration to cerify if it is a "legal" copy.

My desktop crashed. The fix was a new motherboard. That required a new hard drive since new motherboards no longer have two IDE connectors. Also new memory was required... bottom line, the ghost image from my previous desktop was rejected.

I keep three computers "current" all the time now at home. My "main" Desktop; a backup in case the desktop crashes (and it always does a few days before bills are due) and a laptop.
I never have the need to run two at a time other than transferring critical files for backup.

Will I pay for three full legal copies of Windows XP Pro? Nope.

27 posted on 06/13/2006 12:24:50 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: Riddick
If every copy was $60 there would be less theft.

C'mon, you think raising the price is incenting the public to NOT pirate??? That is kinda like raising the value and cost of a car incents thieves not to steal them.

Sure, That's gonna work!

No. If everyone paid for their copy of XP, MS could charge less and still cover. We who do not pirate are footing the bill for those do.

28 posted on 06/13/2006 12:26:06 PM PDT by Niteranger68 (Ninguna tarjeta verde. Ningún Inglés. Ningún servicio.)
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To: Publius6961
Will I pay for three full legal copies of Windows XP Pro? Nope.

It is possible to disagree with a law and obey it at the same time. You just choose not to.

29 posted on 06/13/2006 12:29:19 PM PDT by Niteranger68 (Ninguna tarjeta verde. Ningún Inglés. Ningún servicio.)
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To: Brilliant

windows 3.11 is abandonware, want a copy?

http://www.peteweb.com/index.php?showtopic=3987

totally legit.


30 posted on 06/13/2006 12:29:45 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: Brilliant

Have they checked Asia and specifically China recently?


31 posted on 06/13/2006 12:33:10 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: John Lenin

Remember Microsoft is a monopoly. It just means that you HAVE to pay that price if you are dealing with the real world of business.

Despite the enthusiasm of the nich offices, windows is for all intents and purposes the only game in town.

Competing operating systems could be free or they could pay you to use them, you would still have to buy the microsoft product to make the specialty software work with zero chance of emulator compatability problems. IOW the price difference is irrelevant.


32 posted on 06/13/2006 12:34:40 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: MD_Willington_1976

How do you know it's legit?


33 posted on 06/13/2006 12:43:02 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: MD_Willington_1976

Actually, if you read the posts on the site, there is one where someone asks about the legal implications & they explain. Interesting.


34 posted on 06/13/2006 12:46:56 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Publius6961
Will I pay for three full legal copies of Windows XP Pro? Nope.

But seriously, I do simmilar with my 98. I install on 3 hard drives then when it starts going buggy I start saving data to cd. When it gets too bad, usually after 2 or 3 months, I just pop a clean installed hard drive in.

35 posted on 06/13/2006 12:47:55 PM PDT by Dosa26
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To: Dosa26

Have you considered raid?


36 posted on 06/13/2006 12:49:29 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345
Have you considered raid?

No. I'm actually not really sure what it is. I just keep all 3 hd in the box with 2 disconnected then move the power and ribbon when I feel like it like playing a game on a clean disk vs. a hodgepodge disk.

37 posted on 06/13/2006 12:58:50 PM PDT by Dosa26
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To: Panerai

I read somewhere that the proposed price for Vista will be about $450.


38 posted on 06/13/2006 1:13:52 PM PDT by jordan8
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To: Dosa26
Some motherboards support raid as well as expansion cards.

raid = redundant array of inexpensive disks

Simplest and easiest to implement -- mirroring raid (RAID 1) -- usually two drives a mother board or expansion card that support raid 1. When a file, the os, or anything is written to one disk, an exact duplicate is written to the second drive. An exact copy of your hard drive is always available on the other drive.

If one drive fails, the other is immediately available with all files and current OS. The biggest cost is the extra drive which it sounds like you already have. And finding a motherboard might be tricky. Raid expansion cards can be handy, here. You don't need anything greater than raid 1.

Also, assume that you are running a recent OS.
39 posted on 06/13/2006 1:20:45 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Sundog
>Love My Mac


40 posted on 06/13/2006 1:24:31 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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