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US Marines Build Shrine To Islam
Front Page Mag ^ | 6/13/06 | Paul Sperry

Posted on 06/13/2006 4:51:14 AM PDT by Buffettfan

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To: CWOJackson
The first Amendment is not at odds with anything...it gives us ALL religious freedom.

Just as Islam does,....... RIGHT?!?!

Right there Chief????

Is that it?

201 posted on 06/13/2006 7:31:13 AM PDT by Fruitbat (I)
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To: Buffettfan

BARF!


202 posted on 06/13/2006 7:31:44 AM PDT by veronica ("A person needs a sense of mission like the air he breathes...")
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To: Fruitbat
"Just as Islam does,....... RIGHT?!?!"

Are you living in an Islamic country? This is the United States of America, where under the Constitution, we have religious freedom...even our troops.

203 posted on 06/13/2006 7:32:53 AM PDT by CWOJackson (Go Mike Go!)
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To: CWOJackson
I may have to do a montage or your ...., AHEM, .... "arguments."

This is a gas.

Yes, is that pure alcohol flowing through yours?

I tell ya, you're a genius. Why are you wasting your talents here when you could be on CBS, NBC, or ABC being the next wooden head over there?

Gosh, again and as usual, just so much for us to hang our hats on here.

"pure alcohol flowing through mine...."

That's a tough one to refute regarding the 1st Amendment.

Help here folks! I think Chief just won the argument.

Anyone, .... Bueller?

I'm just stumped....

204 posted on 06/13/2006 7:33:59 AM PDT by Fruitbat (I)
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To: Kolb
You would think that Marine Corps training and Muslim faith would be in direct conflict.
Wrong - both are trained to kill their enemies.
205 posted on 06/13/2006 7:34:45 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Peach
I've read about the Muslim chaplain too, and none of it was good. In fact, it was so bad I wondered if he was being monitored as a way to find out who he was working with.

I seem to recall some concerns about him a few years ago, but I may be confusing him with James Yee (converted to Islam at West Point), who was charged with espionage. If I find something I'll post it.

206 posted on 06/13/2006 7:35:29 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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To: Fruitbat
Yes, the concept of religious freedom in this country sure does seem to stump the crap right out of you. The thought of extending it to our troops seems to make you shudder.

Good.

207 posted on 06/13/2006 7:35:32 AM PDT by CWOJackson (Go Mike Go!)
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To: All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1646979/posts#27

"Tell that to Cpl. Mohammed N. Rahman, or Lance Cpl. Sajjad H. Rizvi."

Or Sgt Omar Najieb, a damn good Marine that I trust with my life and the lives of the rest of my Marines. Some of you clowns need to step back and think before you run your mouths about good people you know nothing about!!

In other words, hump a mile in these guys boots, or STFU!!!!



27 posted on 06/10/2006 7:20:23 PM CDT by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)


208 posted on 06/13/2006 7:36:46 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: SJackson

This is an article about how Muslim chaplains in the US military are under investigation for referring their spiritual charges to radical clerics.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/988070/posts

This Muslim chaplain has said he would not tell superiors if a detainee had a weapon!

On January 31, 2002, the Miami Herald printed an article (link requires payment of fee) by Carol Rosenberg that starts with the sentence, “You’re the first-ever American Muslim cleric to minister to a prison camp full of suspected terrorists and one confides he has a weapon. Do you keep the secret? Or do you breach religious confidentiality?”

According to Ms. Rosenberg, the Muslim Chaplain, US Navy Lt. Abuhena Mohammad Saiful-Islam would look “for a third way to resolve the clear conflict of interest between the crescent moon pin stuck in your left lapel and the lieutenant’s bars on the right side of your uniform.”

Lt. Saiful-Islam would look “for a third way”? A commissioned officer in the service of the United States Navy, upon discovering the presence of an illegal weapon among suspected terrorists would look “for a third way”? Lt. Saiful-Islam responded: “I will say, ‘give it to me,’ – and not tell the general who had it,.” A commissioned officer would deliberately hide the fact that a terrorism suspect was holding an illegal weapon in a prison?


209 posted on 06/13/2006 7:36:55 AM PDT by Peach (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: SJackson

I believe you're both referring to Lt Yee, US Army. He is the one who was charged.


210 posted on 06/13/2006 7:37:13 AM PDT by CWOJackson (Go Mike Go!)
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To: Peach
"This is an article about how Muslim chaplains in the US military are under investigation for referring their spiritual charges to radical clerics."

A Muslim chaplain, not chaplains, his not their.

211 posted on 06/13/2006 7:38:31 AM PDT by CWOJackson (Go Mike Go!)
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To: Valin

Some days it just makes you wonder why in the hell you ever put the uniform on.


212 posted on 06/13/2006 7:39:28 AM PDT by CWOJackson (Go Mike Go!)
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To: Peach

Yes...And

Shiite Muslim Marine fights the war on terrorism with Company L, 3/25
Marine Corps News ^ | Sep 20, 2005 | Cpl. Ken Melton
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1488432/posts

Columbus, Ohio, native, Sunni Muslim fights in Global War on Terrorism (as a MARINE!)
Marine Corps News ^ | July 27, 2005 | Cpl. Ken Melton
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1451921/posts

Hundreds attend funeral of Indian-born U.S. soldier killed in Iraq
YAHOO NEWS ^ | 4th September, 2005
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1477166/posts


213 posted on 06/13/2006 7:39:34 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: CWOJackson
Are you living in an Islamic country? This is the United States of America, where under the Constitution, we have religious freedom...even our troops.

Once again, you seem to have difficulty answering questions, and in this case, one that was predicated on the follow-up of a direct statment made by you.

Now, are you a lib variety that cannot answer simple questions? Or not?

Your next response will reveal all there!

Once again, in the midst of a failure to communicate, the question stands, again, as predicated on one of your own statements, as stated in post #201 there Chief!

So, which is it. You cannot answer a SIMPLE question, .... or you can?

Ahhh, but for fear that you can't find it, I'll repost it w/ details:

Your statement: The first Amendment is not at odds with anything...it gives us ALL religious freedom.

My follow-up/retort to it:

Just as Islam does,....... RIGHT?!?!

Right there Chief????

Is that it?

So let's see what happens here...

PS I realize that I'm a xenophobe, and mud on a marine's shoes, etc. So just skip all that and answer the question.

OR not!

214 posted on 06/13/2006 7:39:42 AM PDT by Fruitbat (I)
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To: CWOJackson
The chaplains programme in the US military and federal prison system is under formal investigation by the Pentagon and Justice Department following complaints that Muslim chaplains were referring their spiritual charges to radical clerics, some of whom advocate jihad against America.

From the link I provided, it clearly says that Muslim chaplains (that's with an s and is plural) are under investigation.

215 posted on 06/13/2006 7:40:09 AM PDT by Peach (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: Valin

You think it's a good think this Muslim chaplain is a jihad supporter?


216 posted on 06/13/2006 7:40:44 AM PDT by Peach (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: Fruitbat

Still having problems with understanding the concept of religious "freedom"...I guess your contempt for the troops is getting in the way.


217 posted on 06/13/2006 7:41:23 AM PDT by CWOJackson (Go Mike Go!)
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To: Peach

yeah, and so what? the conviction against Yee was thrown out. What does that have to do with this?


218 posted on 06/13/2006 7:43:21 AM PDT by notigar
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To: Peach

Your link referred to Muslims, not Muslim Chaplains.


219 posted on 06/13/2006 7:43:31 AM PDT by CWOJackson (Go Mike Go!)
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To: CWOJackson
I guess your contempt for the troops is getting in the way.

Yet another ridiculous statement by you. You'll just have to point out where this freeper has expressed contempt for the troops.

That a navy chaplain doesn't trust this jihad supporting Muslim Chaplain hasn't registered with you a whit I see. So much for supporting ALL the troops. LOL

220 posted on 06/13/2006 7:43:35 AM PDT by Peach (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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