Flight of Young Adults Is Causing Alarm Upstate (NY)

NY Times ^ | June 13, 2006 | SAM ROBERTS

[neverdem]

Phillippe Diederich for The New York Times
Matthew and Melissa O'Brien, both natives of upstate New York, at home in Tampa, Fla., with their children, Alexandra, 8, and Evan, 5.

Phillippe Diederich for The New York Times
Newell Nussbaumer, publisher of Buffalo Rising Magazine, hopes to promote the city and to reverse the exodus of recent college graduates.

The result of clueless libs & spineless RINOS, IMHO.

[goldstategop]

Its expensive in a Blue State. In a southern state, you can get big, decent housing for less than $200,000 for a family of four. No wonder the Northeast and California are losing people. Every one is moving to where there's a better quality of life, lower taxes and a chance for some real happiness.

[Republican Wildcat]

Are they sure they are actually leaving? Isn't it possible they were never born in the first place?

[goldstategop]

The only downside is liberals bringing their voting habits elsewhere and recreating the very conditions they're fleeing.

[Paladin2]

It's called voting with one's feet. One doesn't have to live under onerous laws and tax rates yet. If I had both Schumer AND Hillary! "representing" me, I'd be working on an escape plan too.

[goldstategop]

New York is a cornucopia and about the only people who can live there pull in six figure incomes. The most Americans will come close to it is on TV. They brace themselves for sticker shocker if they visit the Big Apple as tourists.

[neverdem]

Are they sure they are actually leaving? Isn't it possible they were never born in the first place?

"Among all people who left Erie County, according to an analysis by M & T Bank of data from 2003 tax returns, about half moved elsewhere in the state. About as many moved to Los Angeles County as moved to either Manhattan or Brooklyn."

[Cobra64]

Are they sure they are actually leaving? Isn't it possible they were never born in the first place?

Yup. And Lake Placid and Niagara Falls are a myth. Ever been to New York?

[goldstategop]

Every one wants to be where the fun and excitement is. That means high demand, low supply and every thing commands a premium. Go figure.

[Cobra64]

Once outside of the city, it's one of the prettiest states in the country. Most is farmland, forest, and parks.

If it weren't for the city, it'd be a Red state.

[cricket]

The only downside is liberals bringing their voting habits elsewhere and recreating the very conditions they're fleeing.

For sure as per the debaucle of Bush v Gore 2000; created in Orange County, Florida. . .if these people do not figure it out. . .they will catch up with themselves. . .

[Hong Kong Expat]

Most of them aren't liberals, according to the map the conservative parts of the state are losing the greatest amounts of population.

You only have to worry if they say they are from Manhattan.

[Army MP Retired]

Its expensive in a Blue State. In a southern state, you can get big, decent housing for less than $200,000 for a family of four. No wonder the Northeast and California are losing people. Every one is moving to where there's a better quality of life, lower taxes and a chance for some real happiness. That, AND - maybe they just don't like digging their cars out of 3 feet of snow every day for 6 months of the year! LOL. I remember many winter mornings at Fort Drum in Watertown, NY wondering why human beings ever settled there in the first place. My dear wife (an AL native) told me later that if I ever decided I wanted to back to Upstate NY - it would be as a "geographical bachelor."

[cricket]

If it weren't for the city, it'd be a Red state.

No question re the beauty of New York state.

Wonder what color is the vote of NYT's Phillippe Diederich. . .

[Republican Wildcat]

In that specific age demographic?

[MinorityRepublican]

Solution to this problem? Make New York City into a State. That way, New York will become a red state and will have easier time keeping young people after the government reduce taxes and eliminate some red tape.

[Republican Wildcat]

And Lake Placid and Niagara Falls are a myth.

I have no idea what you are talking about or what that has to do with my question.

Ever been to New York?

Yes. Have you?

[coconutt2000]

I bet the only wall New York liberals will support is the one to keep the young adults from leaving. :-)

[goldstategop]

Truthfully, the Niagara Falls looks better on the Canadian side. Trust me, I went on both sides of the border to get a look at the falls. But its really spectacular in Ontario and you can't beat the view in the Skylon restaurant.

[Neanderthal]

The result of clueless libs & spineless RINOS, IMHO.

Liberalism killed a beautiful state. Somehow the NYT forgot to write about why everyone with a clue is leaving. Could it be the outrageous taxes, unions, and regulation? You wouldn't know if you just read the NYT.

I grew up in upstate and loved it but there is absolutely no way I could live there now. There were eight kids in my family. Six have moved out of state. The other two are lawyers, feeding off the carcasses of upstaters that weren't smart enough to get the heck out of New York State.