Posted on 06/12/2006 6:19:13 AM PDT by altoidboy
can't believe no one posted this yet. a very interesting exchange of FNC host Julie Banderas and guest Shirley Phelps-Roper screaming at each other: You have to see this video to believe it...
I was flipping channels and caught the very end of that exchange - what was the dispute about?
It would have been far more effective if she had kept her cool and raised the ACLU affiliations, previous support for Al Gore, etc and tried to paint them as a group of democratic subversives.
Me too.
It looked stupid.
marking
Even so, it wouldn't be Ms. Phelp's decision who is saved. I'm actually Presbyterian (newly) and I get a little muzzy on the whole elect thing. At any rate, we all have to act like we can make the decision. And certainly she's not the one electing anyone.
There--clear as mud?
;)
susie
I suspect they will. I honestly think she (and probably the rest of the family) are mentally ill. She seemed to enjoy the fact that someone would go to Hell. I am distressed by the fact that anyone is going (ok, I admit I have a hard time feeling bad about terrorists, etc--but anyone who is a regular kind of person). I gotta wonder about what her life growing up was like. I'm not excusing her, but what makes someone like that tick? She needs our prayers. And I admit I have a difficult time sincerely praying for someone like her.
susie
Why do you assume both can't be criticized?
I thought Banderas showed a lot of courage in standing up to this phony. The Phelps family is a travelling circus act, putting on a show for the cameras.
They would all have to be mentally ill to actually believe the stuff they say. And they know they're going to get treated roughly when they do interviews.
But Banderas was especially rough, even tougher than John Gibson was when he spoke to one of the younger Phelps women.
I enjoy watching Banderas on weekends; she asks good, tough questions, and doesn't let her interviewees get away with saying things they can't back up.
Whatever happened to Laurie Dhue? She was working with Geraldo, but does Geraldo still have a show on FOXNEWS? Dhue was a pretty good interviewer as well, but I knew she wanted to do some other things so as to not get slotted into the "news reader" role.
Didn't she go to MSNBC?
"...But its worth repeating. post 34 in the above thread has the video."
Thanks.
Bandaras just scored some points in my book.
One poster here compared Bandaras to Satan. But had nothing bad to say about the Phelps woman.
I simply thought that was a little out of balance.
Good catch. It's easy for all of us to Monday morning quarterback, but really, I wish someone would take those people to task, not by yelling insults at them, but by using logic. For example, when they say something like "God hates fags," I wish someone would ask calmly, "And how do you know that? Are you suggesting that you have the ability to read Gods' heart?" I can understand Julie's fury, but not her waste of an opportunity to really show how illogical these people are. And what about the money? Why didn't Julie ask about the "funds" this group receives and how much? That would have shut her up FAST.
I probably would have reacted like Julie did, but you're right, while it was a bit cathartic, it probably didn't change any minds....or hearts. I honestly don't know why they don't sometimes just cut the mikes of people who just continue to talk over the interviewer, however.
susie
I just re-read the interview, and hopefully other journalists will learn from it. That tit-for-tat "you're going to hell" "No, God hates YOU" just doesn't work on people like the Phelps. I really look forward to the day when someone interviews them who is prepared to hit them where they live, which of course, is moneyland.
I agree about cutting the mike off. I have heard people do that many times, Larry King for example. Given how angry Banderas got, I don't think she has the ability to cut interviewees off.
She looks like that character actor, I can't think of his name but he's a very familiar face-played the tire expert witness in "My Cousin Vinny"- with his hair grown long.
Julie Banderas ROCKED!!! I have to say that while a nice civil exchange of ideas is wonderful in principle, try doing that in the zoo with the apes. That is the position they put our (apparently) Christian sister in and she ROCKED. Jesus was rather dramatic when he overturned the tables money changers, and I and sure that many thought that unseemly. However, you have to pick the right tool for a job and that Phelps human did not understand any other form of communication. The mistake was to have her on at all.
Go Julie - FOX folks you better have her back on this one!
Can you imagine the difference if this had been a CNN talking head?
And, Julie Banderas, is clearly no "Bimbo" she held her own quite nicely and quoted scripture like someone who actually studies it.
Bravo again.
I am Calvinist, and the Phelps' claim to be as well, though they are hypercalvinist since they believe we "can't do anything about it."
They are heretics just in their version of Calvinism alone, not to mention the demonic beliefs they hold otherwise.
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