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The Google generation (Decline of research at the Library)
Portland Press Herald ^ | June 11, 2006 | BETH QUIMBY

Posted on 06/11/2006 8:07:04 PM PDT by SamAdams76

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To: SamAdams76

the encyclopedia in most libraries are a couple years old even if they are "new"...at least on line they are up to date.

And for research, it is much easier on line.

For medical information, textbooks have to be replaced every three years. It used to be I would have to go to my academy and ask them to find articles on some subject, then wait two to three weeks. Now I google Grateful Med and voila, I have a summary and often can get the entire article on line.


41 posted on 06/12/2006 12:29:04 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: SamAdams76
"Atwell said American libraries should follow the example of the British."

I agree, but on a more important issue.

British libraries do not allow children to access sexually inappropriate material. Following the American Library Association, many American libraries do. You see many librarians believe it is "age" discrimination for a librarian to make a decision about the appropriateness of material for children.

Learn more at SafeLibraries.org.

SafeLibraries.org - Are Children Safe in Public Libraries?

SafeLibraries. org - Are Children Safe in Public Libraries?

42 posted on 06/12/2006 5:41:00 AM PDT by plan2succeed.org (www.plan2succeed.org)
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To: FreedomCalls

nah this was supplemental stuff i wanted her to learn. acceptable?


43 posted on 06/12/2006 5:59:55 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: KarlInOhio

Time and Newsweak are also still commonly found in school libraries despite their obvious flaws.


44 posted on 06/12/2006 6:16:21 AM PDT by weegee ("Hitler dead in bunker by own hand, war rages on")
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To: al baby
lol.....one of the funniest neckties I ever saw was dark blue with the pattern of those little yellow flyers on it.

I was in an elevator with the guy wearing it and told him it was awesome....and I never comment on peoples ties.

He said he gets comments on it all day, every day he wears it.......but only from people over 30.  People younger than 30 don't get it.

45 posted on 06/12/2006 6:21:31 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ISLAM: The Other Psychosis)
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46 posted on 06/12/2006 6:34:32 AM PDT by al baby (Dick Trickle is not a medical condition)
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To: plan2succeed.org
Certainly not in my public library. The children's section contains more books on teaching sex to children than I'd seen in my life, a biography praising Margaret Sanger (aimed at 5th graders), and don't even get me started on what they keep in the teen section. It's foul, and my children will never be able to browse this library without supervision. Considering how much of my youth was spent wandering around in libraries I find this quite depressing.
47 posted on 06/12/2006 6:38:27 AM PDT by Eepsy (Hocus pocus alamagocus!)
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To: SamAdams76
Our local library has almost nothing I'm interested in purusing. Tons of children's books though, so my wife and daughter make weekly trips for bedtime reading material.

Searches I've done that have turned up nothing:

You get the idea.

I'd probably get a lot more excited about "libraries" if the Library of Congress was online. Set up a downloadable "check out" system and put every book in or out of print online for a small fee. Enough to pay the author a royalty and for upkeep/upgrade of the system. Make it available worldwide.

Yes, there would be issue with hackers, ect... There always will be. Better to have too much access to information than too little.

48 posted on 06/12/2006 6:42:00 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (It is not the oath that makes us believe the man, but the man the oath.- Aeschylus)
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To: al baby

lol...there ya go. That tie is awsome.


49 posted on 06/12/2006 6:46:27 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ISLAM: The Other Psychosis)
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To: quantim
They are just ways gubmint can tax you more to keep these dinosaurs alive.

Their primary value seems to be as places for hoary old Leftists to hold "Kucinich 2008" coffees. ;)

But yeah, my town wants to spend 50 million dollars to build a new one, when they could deliver more value to the community by leasing a nice big office suite and filling it with Intel iMacs for less than a tenth of the cost.

50 posted on 06/12/2006 6:57:07 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Tax Government

Yes, the reference sections may be empty but the computers for public use are ALL in use - organized by time limits, sign-up sheets and access cards to keep the kids off of porn sites.


51 posted on 06/12/2006 6:59:54 AM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: CheyennePress
Wikipedia is great for science. It's terrible for anything that allows opinion.

Just like Brittanica. ;) Leftist opinion found its way into everything a long time ago - the Internet just allows you to get to it faster.

I liked P.J. O'Rourke's statement that he owns a 1919 edition of Britannica and that it is the only reference he really trusts.

52 posted on 06/12/2006 7:00:18 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: WoofDog123; FreedomCalls

btw i apologize for my tone in previous post, you had already noted your comment was busybody.


53 posted on 06/12/2006 10:37:18 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: WoofDog123

One added-value librarians still have is teaching trustworthy sites; depending on how you're using it, I would not recommend Wikipedia as the be-all and end-all source of information. Good for organizational purposes, but the information can be very questionable at times.


54 posted on 06/12/2006 10:39:34 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: al baby

My husband found one of those in our house and took it in to the office one day. Some of his younger co-workers had no idea what it was.


55 posted on 06/12/2006 10:40:23 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: quantim

"There is no reason to have a tax-funded 'library' these days unless to archive and preserve old books out of print."

Well, yes, there is. Many public libraries have extensive databases that are available to the public through the library's subscription. Enterprise licenses to digital material serves the entire community far more efficiently than individual books ever did - but they can be expensive, so taxpayer funding would still be needed for these resources, which you can access more easily than ever.


56 posted on 06/12/2006 10:43:53 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: ExtremeUnction

I don't think your analogy is quite right. Yes, ice delivery gave way to electric refrigeration. The need for refrigeration was the constant, however; the format simply changed.

The need for organized, easily-accessed information is the constant, and is so overwhelming there is a need to address it at an organizational rather than individual level. Libraries will evolve, and are evolving, into something we don't recognize from years ago, but will continue to serve the information imperative.


57 posted on 06/12/2006 10:51:31 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: Dead Corpse

Electronic searching is far less forgiving than "browsing through the cards" searching used to be, because you have to know how to spell the words correctly to get results. Try "metallurgy". :)

loc.gov is online, so you can see what books are available, but of course copyright prevents making full text available. There are many services, such as Gutenberg, which make full text of OP books available.


58 posted on 06/12/2006 10:55:19 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: WoofDog123

Research projects are never going to be the same.


Thank God. I shutter to think of the millions of hours that I spent looking things up that now could be done in two seconds. I am glad that libraries are faltering. I hope they run out of business. They just suck up tax money. It is time to close all of them down. I think with Barnes and Noble and Google, libaries are done.


59 posted on 06/12/2006 10:57:06 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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60 posted on 06/12/2006 11:01:21 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (It is not the oath that makes us believe the man, but the man the oath.- Aeschylus)
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