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CA: Appeals court upholds rights for separated same-sex parents
AP on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 6/10/06 | AP

Posted on 06/10/2006 9:06:48 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

A lesbian suing for parental rights over a daughter she had with a former partner is entitled to those rights if she meets several criteria for determining legal motherhood, a state appeals court ruled.

The woman must have been integral in planning the conception, raising the child, treating the child as her own and accepting the responsibilities of parenthood, the Court of Appeal panel in San Francisco decided Friday in a 3-0 ruling.

State law prefers for a child to be raised by two parents, and the child and parent are entitled to a relationship even if the parents are separated, said Justice Linda Gemello.

"Once you have that child together and you bring that baby home, you are both parents," said Shannon Minter, a lawyer for the plaintiff.

The case involves a woman identified only as Charisma R. who says her former partner, Kristina S., the child's birth mother who was artificially inseminated, moved away with their 3-month-old daughter in April 2003.

Kristina S. did not want to raise the child in a same-sex relationship, and as birth mother should decide how the child is raised, said her lawyer, Rena Lindevaldsen.

The appellate ruling reinstates Charisma R.'s 2004 lawsuit that was dismissed in Alameda County Superior Court. The judge must now decide whether Charisma R. qualifies as a second parent using the appellate court's guidelines.

The ruling follows a California Supreme Court decision last August granting full parental rights to same-sex partners regardless of their marital status or biological connection to the children. Those rights include custody and visitation, along with Social Security, health coverage and inheritances.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: appealscourt; california; homosexualagenda; parents; rights; samesex; separated; upholds

1 posted on 06/10/2006 9:06:53 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
"Once you have that child together and you bring that baby home, you are both parents,"

Oh, brother. How long will it be before posters show up to say that this is no different than heterosexual parents?

2 posted on 06/10/2006 9:10:09 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: NormsRevenge
The woman must have been integral in planning the conception, raising the child, treating the child as her own and accepting the responsibilities of parenthood

If this were a man, none of these factors would matter. The guy would be responsible for child support for the next 18 years.

3 posted on 06/10/2006 9:13:18 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (Man Law: You Poke It, You Own It)
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To: johniegrad

Sure if she can prove she is the "mother" than she should have rights. The criteria should be a DNA test.

This is as stupid as the putting of both women on the birt certificate as parent 1 and parent 2.

i always thought that part of the reason for a birth certificate was you would know who the biological parents were. So you don't end up with sister marrying sister and so on and so forth.


4 posted on 06/10/2006 9:13:18 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver
Sure if she can prove she is the "mother" than she should have rights. The criteria should be a DNA test.

The only way I see this as a possibility is if she donated the egg.

5 posted on 06/10/2006 9:14:40 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (Man Law: You Poke It, You Own It)
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To: NormsRevenge
The woman must have been integral in planning the conception, raising the child, treating the child as her own and accepting the responsibilities of parenthood, the Court of Appeal panel in San Francisco decided Friday in a 3-0 ruling.

Oh, is that so?

And just where in California law passed by the legislature are those requirements?

Or did the court just make the law up based on whatever they felt like today?

6 posted on 06/10/2006 9:21:30 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: NormsRevenge
Kristina S. did not want to raise the child in a same-sex relationship,

A mother with sense. I hope she prevails - but they are from CA.

7 posted on 06/10/2006 9:23:31 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: johniegrad

Meet the daddy.

8 posted on 06/10/2006 9:27:22 PM PDT by A message (Zarqawi dead, Democrats deeply saddened)
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To: Fido969

"Or did the court just make the law up based on whatever they felt like today?"

That seems a silly question to me, of course they do. judicial activism is on the rise.


9 posted on 06/10/2006 9:42:35 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: NormsRevenge; DBeers

I always hate it when people say about two women or two men that "they" have a child, or it is "their" child.

WTF???

DB - list... :-(


10 posted on 06/10/2006 9:55:05 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: NormsRevenge
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11 posted on 06/10/2006 10:08:37 PM PDT by telebob
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To: NormsRevenge

Give these sicko's more rights.


12 posted on 06/10/2006 10:19:59 PM PDT by garylmoore (Faith is the assurance of things unseen.)
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To: NormsRevenge
So sorry, Charisma. Since you were so stupid as to put yourself in this unnatural, perverted situation, you brought this on yourself. If I were the judge I'd tell you to move on with your life and get some smarts along the way.

If I were the baby in this picture, my best bet might be adoption by a normal, loving couple.

Who would choose a lesbian mother over a decent dad and mom?

13 posted on 06/10/2006 10:24:51 PM PDT by IIntense
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To: NormsRevenge

...a daughter she had with a former partner... "had"?


14 posted on 06/10/2006 11:29:16 PM PDT by Hayley
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To: NormsRevenge

It sure seems to me that a lot of these gay "marriages" aren't working out.


15 posted on 06/10/2006 11:38:42 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (DemocRATS! America's Lynch Mob.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

So true!


16 posted on 06/10/2006 11:43:30 PM PDT by baltoga
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To: NormsRevenge
The woman must have been integral in planning the conception . . .

Sounds like a euphemism for something that couldn't be printed in a family newspaper.

17 posted on 06/11/2006 5:25:48 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: little jeremiah
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18 posted on 06/11/2006 2:17:26 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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CA: Appeals court upholds rights for separated same-sex parents

Actually - the activist court

CONSTRUED

new rights from thin air...

The court has redefined legally what use to be obvious whether it be biologically reality based or physically documented legally e.g. adoption papers...

The round hole necessitating the CONSTRUED square peg: State law prefers for a child to be raised by two parents, and the child and parent are entitled to a relationship even if the parents are separated, said Justice Linda Gemello.

What was once objectively obvious (a result of procreation) is now irrationally premised and defined according to rational criteria developed by a court (not the legislature)...

That which was CONSTRUED: A new leftist definition of parenthood that places biological parents on equal footing with anyone wishing to hire an attorney: must have been integral in planning the conception, raising the child, treating the child as their own and accepting the responsibilities of parenthood.

--- This ushers in polyparenthood -people suing people for possession of children REGARDLESS who the actual biological parents are and regardless what has always been presumed and assumed an exclusive right inherent, with any burden as to anything otherwise being upon the State or any other to prove...

19 posted on 06/11/2006 2:45:15 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: DBeers

The ultimate in moral relativity.

"Parent" can mean anything; therefore, nothing.


20 posted on 06/11/2006 6:49:42 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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