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1 posted on 06/10/2006 7:14:40 PM PDT by saquin
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Bump and ping.


2 posted on 06/10/2006 7:16:39 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Carry Daily, Apply Sparingly.)
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To: saquin

It's really a shame that our military is having to justify doing their job.


3 posted on 06/10/2006 7:17:42 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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More details that differ greatly from Mr. Murtha's account of that day.


4 posted on 06/10/2006 7:19:34 PM PDT by Coop (FR= a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: saquin

That's probably the most thorough accounting of the incident I've read to date.

I'm very interested in what the investigations will conclude.


5 posted on 06/10/2006 7:19:45 PM PDT by Pox
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To: saquin

This thing is looking more and more like a mediaops setup by our enemies.


6 posted on 06/10/2006 7:19:50 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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....went after insurgents who were firing at them from inside a house.

Using women and children as "human shields."

It's what terrorists do.

7 posted on 06/10/2006 7:20:42 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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This is a clear explanation of what happened. The video from the two person Hammurabi Human Rights organization is self serving fiction produced by people opposed to the US mission in Iraq. Its a false narrative imposed over video taken well after these events transpired. Some in congress and in the media took this narrative as a record of the actual events.


8 posted on 06/10/2006 7:20:58 PM PDT by Dialup Llama
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It is starting to appear as though my suspicions about this so-called "massacre" were correct. The insurgents (some being family members) were in that house. They set up the IED. After the IED was detonated, the Marines returned fire at the house and the so-called "civilians" were either killed in the crossfire or murdered by the insurgents as they departed.


9 posted on 06/10/2006 7:21:51 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (DemocRATS! America's Lynch Mob.)
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And the truth trickles out ...

"A four-man team of Marines, including Wuterich, kicked in the door and found a series of empty rooms, noticing quickly that there was one room with a closed door and people rustling behind it, Puckett said. They then kicked in that door, tossed a fragmentation grenade into the room, and one Marine fired a series of "clearing rounds" through the dust and smoke, killing several people, Puckett said."

"The Marine who fired the rounds -- Puckett said it was not Wuterich -- had experience clearing numerous houses on a deployment in Fallujah, where Marines had aggressive rules of engagement."

"Although it was almost immediately apparent to the Marines that the people dead in the room were men, women and children -- most likely civilians -- they also noticed a back door ajar and believed that insurgents had slipped through to a house nearby, Puckett said. The Marines stealthily moved to the second house, kicking in the door, killing one man inside and then using a frag grenade and more gunfire to clear another room full of people, he said."

Marines are NOT mass murderers. They were simply doing their job. With gun fire coming out of the house, who would expect less? It's war. People die. Sometimes innocents die too. This is one of those situations.

What disgusts me the most is the additional stress put on our military for DEFENDING THEMSELVES and DOING THEIR JOBS. Marines are a class act.
11 posted on 06/10/2006 7:22:22 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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Sounds like the Marines followed the rules and it was a job well done. War is Hell, better them than US.


13 posted on 06/10/2006 7:24:16 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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Although it was almost immediately apparent to the Marines that the people dead in the room were men, women and children -- most likely civilians -- they also noticed a back door ajar and believed that insurgents had slipped through to a house nearby, Puckett said.

WOW!!! Okay, I've been waiting to hear from this sergeant. The Haditha hoax is unravelling faster than Zarqawi's colon.

14 posted on 06/10/2006 7:24:23 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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HADITHA PING! Sounds like Murtha will really be shown to have gone off the deep end slandering our Marines, but more importantly all of the jihad-journalists who have been flogging this issue without the real facts need to FRY.


15 posted on 06/10/2006 7:24:54 PM PDT by Enchante (General Hayden: I've Never Taken a Domestic Flight That Landed in Waziristan!)
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(( ping ))


17 posted on 06/10/2006 7:26:10 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: saquin

Sounds like Murfa is about to eat some rotten crow...


18 posted on 06/10/2006 7:26:15 PM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: saquin

I've posted this before, but it makes a point:

When I was 14 or 15, I was walking with my girlfriend and my best friend Eddie when some kids a block away in a field started throwing rocks towards us.

Me and Eddie warned them Brooklyn-style to knock it off, or else.

Now, my girlfriend launched into lecturing us about peace and non-violece, etcetera.

Her admonision of our response ended abruptly when a rock bounced off her forehead, which quickly developed into an egg-shaped lump.

We had to hold her back then, because now SHE wanted to kill them!

I learned that day that liberal philosophies aren't worth a damn once the rock bounces off YOUR head!


21 posted on 06/10/2006 7:27:58 PM PDT by Solamente (Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out...)
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ping


25 posted on 06/10/2006 7:29:23 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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God bless our Troops. I have been hoping that Murtha would eat his words, that POS.
26 posted on 06/10/2006 7:29:27 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: saquin

Sounds like the first house was shot up by the insurgents.

Considering they target women and children every day, I'm inclined to believe that the our black clad shooters executed the women and children long before the Marines arrived.


29 posted on 06/10/2006 7:30:34 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Too soon... to forget. See United 93)
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Murtha or our Marines?

Is there any question who I will give the benefit of the doubt? Not now and not ever.

God bless our Marines.


31 posted on 06/10/2006 7:31:20 PM PDT by krunkygirl
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These Marines are innocent.

This information simply supports their innocence.


37 posted on 06/10/2006 7:35:42 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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