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Iraqi raises questions on al-Zarqawi death
AP on Yahoo ^ | 6/10/06 | Patrick Quinn - ap

Posted on 06/10/2006 8:57:01 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: Obadiah
Democrats Vow to Fight On After Zarqawi Loss

Yep, they seem to have increased the rate of deepening that hole they're in. We should give them more shovels.

61 posted on 06/10/2006 9:18:41 AM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I said it before:

I hope they only took pictures of his unconscious scumbag body announcing him as dead, then transported him somewhere unknown, nursed him back to health, then inserted liquified pork rinds in one end of his body and kept doing so until valuable intel comes out the other end.


62 posted on 06/10/2006 9:19:25 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: TheConservator

the obvious bruising around the head shown on the picture of his corpse.


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You ever get hit upside your head by a cinder block, make that a bunch of cinder blocks? Ouch!

He actually looked pretty good considering what was tossed his way.


63 posted on 06/10/2006 9:19:33 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - "The Road to Peace in the Middle East runs thru Damascus.")
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To: NormsRevenge

The sicko Associated Press NEVER lets up.


64 posted on 06/10/2006 9:20:03 AM PDT by MrCruncher
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To: NormsRevenge
. The American military team then pulled the man from the ambulance and beat him, Ahmed said. He gave a similar account to The Washington Post.

This account is as bizarre as the one told by the girl who supposedly witnessed the American "massacre" at Haditha. Both sound wildly implausible.
65 posted on 06/10/2006 9:20:45 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Democrats: soulless minions of orthodoxy.)
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To: NormsRevenge

B.S. The AP or BBC probably paid this guy the equivalent of a years salary to say this garbage on camera.


66 posted on 06/10/2006 9:20:45 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Life is too short to go through it clenched of sphincter and void of humor - it's okay to laugh.)
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To: NormsRevenge

"Aye, Captain, it was the Krypton what did him in, that's for sure."


67 posted on 06/10/2006 9:20:45 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: NormsRevenge
I'll wait for the South Park version:

..........................."You killed Zarqawi! You bastards!!!"................

68 posted on 06/10/2006 9:20:51 AM PDT by CaptainCanada ("Macht doch Eiern Dreck aleene!" (Take care of your own mess!).)
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To: NormsRevenge
"The man, who lived near the scene of the bombing, claimed in an interview with AP Television News to have seen U.S. soldiers beating an injured man resembling al-Zarqawi until blood flowed from the man's nose. "

The man hasn't been seen since he drove off in his new SUV with the AP logo on it.

69 posted on 06/10/2006 9:20:57 AM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: NormsRevenge

Was blood coming out of Nicholas Berg's nose?


70 posted on 06/10/2006 9:21:01 AM PDT by MrCruncher
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To: Jameison
I am feeling more confident then ever that we are going to clobber the RATS come November. They are doing everything they can to make sure we win. :)

Same here :). I think we are very fortunate with our political opponents.

71 posted on 06/10/2006 9:21:09 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: pissant
"Or was wearing a nightie."

Leopard skin nightie to be exact :-)

72 posted on 06/10/2006 9:21:13 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: NormsRevenge

God bless the pilot that pushed the buttons that released the bombs that flew through the air that found zarkman that made sure the scumbag got his just reward..


73 posted on 06/10/2006 9:21:18 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info)
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To: the Real fifi
BTW did you notice the subtle bit of propaganda in the videos of the after-bombing. A neighborhood kid steps over the rubble and picks up a pristine teddy bear and holds it up to the camera.

In the early morning hours of the first day -- and that video happened to be making the rounds already, one of the FoxNews morning females commented that that had to be some kind of file footage, because, per reports, the Iraqi police were on the scene immediately and, surely, they would have secured the area and not let children be crawling around on the rubble.


Either that video was of another scene or it was staged.
74 posted on 06/10/2006 9:21:25 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: NormsRevenge; All

Well damn, Patrick Quinn, your stories changed. And oh, now you use the name Ahmed... who couldn't previously be identified?

Iraqi Claims U.S. GIs Beat Wounded Man (Zarqawi)
Newsday ^ | June 10, 2006 | PATRICK QUINN
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1646765/posts?page=151

My version:

What took them so long?

After the photoshop question at the Snow presser, I expected torture to come up next. The left never fails me.

BAGHDAD, Iraq - An Iraqi man who was one of the first people on the scene of the U.S. airstrike targeting Abu Musab al-Zarqawi said he saw American troops beating a man who had a beard like the al-Qaida leader.

-An Iraqi man source... hmmm. A beard like Zarqawis... ok.

The witness, who lives near the house where al-Zarqawi spent his last days, said he saw the man lying on the ground near an irrigation canal. He was badly wounded but still alive, the man told Associated Press Television News.

-Television News?
We all know the AP and Al Reuters/Arabiya only talk to terrorists and wait a minute... I didn't see other houses anywhere near Z's place (unless he lived in the trees). So was his house destroyed? Move along... nothing to see here.

U.S. troops arriving on the scene wrapped the man's head in an Arab robe and began beating him, said the local man, who refused to give his name or show his face to the camera. His account could not be independently verified.

-Couldn't be verified, but good enough to print; Remember when news meant facts?
Wow it's a good thing this witness saw his beard before they covered it with an Arab robe (which we know is standard issue for US troops). Hmmm, no mention of the Iraqi troops getting there first... nevermind.

The U.S. military made no mention of any physical contact between U.S. troops and al-Zarqawi other than an attempt to provide him with medical attention.

-He also said this... further in your article.
"Well, what we had found, as with anything, first reports are not always fully accurate as we continue the debriefings. But we were not aware yesterday that, in fact, Zarqawi was alive when U.S. forces arrived on the site," Caldwell said.

"Well, what we had found, as with anything, first reports are not always fully accurate as we continue the debriefings. But we were not aware yesterday that, in fact, Zarqawi was alive when U.S. forces arrived on the site," Caldwell said.

His recounting of the aftermath of the airstrike could not be independently verified. The Iraqi government confirmed only that Iraqi forces were first on the scene, followed by the Americans.

- Ok, Iraqis at the scene first... again, in the article.


Zarqawi died shortly after the U.S. military obliterated his hideout northwest of Baghdad Wednesday with two 500-pound bombs. The bombs tore a huge crater in the date palm forest where the house was nestled outside the town of Baqouba.

-In the date palm forest where the house was nestled?

Iraqi police pulled him from the flattened home and placed him on a makeshift stretcher. U.S. troops arrived, saw that al-Zarqawi was conscious, and tried to provide medical treatment, the spokesman said.

- Hold on... The "witness" said he was lying on the ground near an irrigation canal; Didn't he also say the US troops got to him and wrapped the guy's head with a beard like Zarqawis with an Arab robe and beat him? Nothing to see here... proceed.

From a helicopter hovering above the site, a wide swath of destruction could be seen. There were no remaining walls in the house, The debris included a skimpy slip in a leopard skin pattern and other see-through pieces of women's clothing. In the crater itself were charred dresses, torn blankets, thin sponge mattresses and pillows.

Also scattered among the debris of concrete blocks was a pillow with a floral pattern, sandals and a bag. There was also a foam mattress, a cooler and part of a washing machine. Green pomegranates hung from a tree left standing nearby.

-Ummm... I saw a collapsed roof, but then again


An aide to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the media, said he saw Caldwell's news briefing but could neither confirm nor deny that al-Zarqawi briefly survived the blast.

"Well, I think it's clear: The Americans said he was seriously wounded and he died," the aide said.

- Ok, the Caldwell's statements can't be verified either... so that makes him equal to your witness with no name and face. al-Maliki's aide could not confirm or deny.
Wait a minute... so this means the witness is more credible because we can't confirm the blast aftermath, the general or al-Maliki's aide (who they can't identify, but writes as his aide).

AP gets better every day... I want to grow up to be a propagandist... I mean journalist.

Contact these jerks:
http://www.ap.org/pages/sitemap/sitemap.html


75 posted on 06/10/2006 9:21:38 AM PDT by AliVeritas ("I see dead people...and illegal immigrants...voting in the next election")
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To: CaptRon

Jack Murtha


76 posted on 06/10/2006 9:21:47 AM PDT by navysealdad
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To: NormsRevenge
"The man, who lived near the scene of the bombing, claimed in an interview with AP Television News to have seen U.S. soldiers beating an injured man resembling al-Zarqawi until blood flowed from the man's nose."

Here we go. How long before General Pace and President Bush put the "suspect" Americans in the brig while they check on this Iraqi's story?

77 posted on 06/10/2006 9:21:51 AM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: dc-zoo

Boy, no kidding. He DOES know them like "every inch of his glorious naked body"...

BTW...I LOVE it when he uses that expression, because I just KNOW it disgusts and horrifies liberals! The mental image they get must be enough to make themselves throw themselves off of cliffs protected by the Sierra Club...:)


78 posted on 06/10/2006 9:21:55 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: SE Mom

Thanks, I'll check that out in a bit.


79 posted on 06/10/2006 9:22:16 AM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: mass55th

He's one ugly bearded lady.


80 posted on 06/10/2006 9:22:20 AM PDT by pissant
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