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To: BlackElk; WhiskeyPapa
You did not mention convictions even at San Francisco although the citation seems to suggest the probability if it was an appellate matter.

The Court upheld the Treason convictions, yes.

Theft (of the vessel) seems perfectly consistent with the left.

How so? And you are aware the South "liberated" an awful lot of stuff they never paid for either. Trains. Ships. States... so... Pot, Meet Kettle.

306 posted on 06/13/2006 3:27:23 PM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: Paul Ross
1. Bullying is still bullying. The soviets sentenced the freedom-loving to the gulag and executed those they deemed traitors, not that anyone should confuse soviet or Union "justice" with justice.

2. Admiration for Confederate generals will always outstrip admiration for just about anything Union. Lee and Jackson were among the very best men in American history. Sherman and Sheridan were not. Grant's best moment was his graciousness toward Lee at Appomattox. A lot more was necessary to put him in Lee's class as a man.

The states themselves belonged to their citizens' respectively (See Amendments IX and X) before and after secession. The trains, ships, guns, forts, real estate, etc. were given by the Buchanan administration to Confederate state militias and/or state governments not stolen by southern tax collectors. The family property of southerners of any and all persuasions burned and destroyed by Sherman were not freely given and not morally taken.

I am not going to waste my time discussing anything whatsoever with Whiskey Papa whom you have already pinged. Pinging him will be your way of informing me that your conversation with me is at an end.

308 posted on 06/14/2006 12:09:56 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Paul Ross
1. Bullying is still bullying. The soviets sentenced the freedom-loving to the gulag and executed those they deemed traitors, not that anyone should confuse soviet or Union "justice" with justice.

2. Admiration for Confederate generals will always outstrip admiration for just about anything Union. Lee and Jackson were among the very best men in American history. Sherman and Sheridan were not. Grant's best moment was his graciousness toward Lee at Appomattox. A lot more was necessary to put him in Lee's class as a man.

The states themselves belonged to their citizens' respectively (See Amendments IX and X) before and after secession. The trains, ships, guns, forts, real estate, etc. were given by the Buchanan administration to Confederate state militias and/or state governments not stolen by southern tax collectors. The family property of southerners of any and all persuasions burned and destroyed by Sherman were not freely given and not morally taken.

I am not going to waste my time discussing anything whatsoever with Whiskey Papa whom you have already pinged. Pinging him will be your way of informing me that your conversation with me is at an end.

309 posted on 06/14/2006 12:10:37 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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