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church' could be forced to bless gays weddings'
worldnetdaily.com ^ | 10/06/2006 | jonathan petre

Posted on 06/10/2006 1:04:58 AM PDT by felisberto

New Government proposals on equality could require clergy to bless homosexual "weddings" or face prosecution, the Church of England said yesterday.

It said the proposed regulations could undermine official teaching and require Christians to act against their religious convictions.

The Sexual Orientation (Provision of Goods and Services) Regulations will make discrimination on grounds of sexual orientation illegal in the same way as race or sex.

They are designed to protect gays and lesbians from being denied "goods, facilities and services" on the basis of their sexual preferences.

They were drawn up after homosexual couples complained of being refused hotel rooms.

But the Church said in its official response to a period of consultation that the regulations would have a serious impact on Christian organisations and would elevate the rights of homosexuals above those of religion.

Unless exemptions were strengthened, Christian centres that disapproved of homosexual behaviour could be forced to hire out rooms to gay groups and Christian charities could have their public funding cut if they did not agree to the regulations.

Faith schools could be required to teach that homosexuality was of equal value to heterosexual marriage and if ministers of religion were not properly protected they could be open to legal action for following their duty.

Last week the Bishop of Rochester, the Rt Rev Michael Nazir-Ali, said that several of the main faiths in the country would have "serious difficulties" with the proposed regulations.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: anothernoob; england; homosexualagenda; libertarians; uk; unitedkingdom
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1 posted on 06/10/2006 1:05:00 AM PDT by felisberto
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To: felisberto

Welcome to FR.

It's the best website on the net for information. We know what's going on before it hits the news.

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2 posted on 06/10/2006 1:11:46 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: felisberto

Welcome to FR. WorldNetDaily, for all of its virtues, tends to be a bit, um, strident.

Start getting yourself "pinged". This is one of the best spots on the Internet for Folks Who Dare To Think For Themselves. Good luck.


3 posted on 06/10/2006 1:15:03 AM PDT by IslandJeff
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4 posted on 06/10/2006 1:27:55 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: felisberto
It said the proposed regulations could undermine official teaching and require Christians to act against their religious convictions.

More Marxist crap.

5 posted on 06/10/2006 1:38:05 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Scientists Are Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
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To: felisberto

Welcome!!!!!



As far as the story goes, it does not surprise me that European nations would do this. It is a socialist country. Would not work here as well.


6 posted on 06/10/2006 1:49:34 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: felisberto

Even though it's in England, I'm sure the usual lefty idiots will be quiet about a "separation of church and state" on this topic.


7 posted on 06/10/2006 2:08:25 AM PDT by Alien Gunfighter (Secular Misanthropist)
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To: All

Homosexuality is not a skin color and there are only two sexes.

Homosexuality is a preference. There is no conclusive scientific evidence amongst the majority of scientists that homosexuality in the majority of cases is biologically induced. None whatsoever. Zippo nada.

And yet we have a government literally forcing people who feel sickened seeing two men kiss to say it's natural. We have a government desiring to force ministers to "bless" homosexual weddings or face prosecution.

Religious people are accused of being intolerant when it is those attempting to force them into compliance with this nonsense who lack tolerance and are not openminded enough to give people the right to disagree.

That is true tolerance: giving people the right to disagree.

So let's see: We're supposed to fully accept as normal people who practice homosexuality, right? This includes bisexuals and transgendered, right?

Who's next? How far does this new fake form of "tolerance" go?

Will the church be required to fully accept as normal those who practice bestiality next? Pedophiles? Age of consent down to twelve year olds? Ten year olds? Hey, why not eight year olds! Aw hay, why not just say three year olds enjoy sex too....

I contend it's coming unless more of us begin speaking out against it rather than falling into silence because we're afraid of being falsely called bigots.

If I call pedophilia abnormal and someone else calls me a bigot, what does that make them?

Moralaphobes.

Get ready. The day is coming. I hope more and more will use their voices to speak out and push back this evil.



8 posted on 06/10/2006 2:30:04 AM PDT by USA Girl
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To: USA Girl
"Homosexuality is a preference. There is no conclusive scientific evidence amongst the majority of scientists that homosexuality in the majority of cases is biologically induced. None whatsoever. Zippo nada."

I agree. After thousands of studies and tons of research, I see several scientists (doctors) coming to the same conclusion that doctors had from the years 0 to 1973 ... "homosexuality is a mental disorder".

9 posted on 06/10/2006 3:13:30 AM PDT by moonman (`)
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To: felisberto

I see that separation of Church and States is a one-way street.


10 posted on 06/10/2006 3:57:19 AM PDT by Beckwith (The liberal media has picked sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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To: USA Girl
Aw hay, why not just say three year olds enjoy sex too....

Researchers already have.

11 posted on 06/10/2006 4:48:44 AM PDT by jimtorr
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To: napscoordinator
The same thing will eventually happen here for all 501c(3) registered churches. In England the state church is the Anglican Church (Church of England). In the United States the state church is The Church of the 501c(3) Status. Public policy will eventually require any church in the USA holding 501c(3) status to either bless sodomoite marriages, or at least to keep their mouth shut about it. 501c(3) churches can already be taken to task for stating that any political figure's positions are dangerous to Christianity in this land, even though, that should be a proper subject of warning in a Christian church, and it is not politics at all do make such a statement. To state the beliefs or practices of any person and how their power could influence the spiritual health of the nation is often proper illustration when teaching Bible principles.

The Christian Law Association has already produced model sets of by-laws that churches could consider adopting to protect themselves from people of perverted pursuasions from seeking employment of places of responsibility in churches. But these model sets of by-laws are for churches that have already acquiesced to becoming a 501c(3) organization under the federal government's apparatus.

New churches have other options than to register with the federal government. To do so puts churches under public policy requirements of the government. It may not seem YET as though the government is enforcing much upon churches, but the tools to control the registered churches are in place for bureaucrats to use when they decide to come down on the churches for anything. Sodomite marriages (whether a church approves/doesn't approve; blesses/refuses to bless) will eventually be one of those issues. Perhaps how soon depends on how soon much more sodomite influence in government occurs.
12 posted on 06/10/2006 5:40:57 AM PDT by Free Baptist
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To: felisberto
Welcome. Like others have said, this is a great place for information as well as to vent frustration.

It is said that if you want to know where America is headed, look at England. It is virtually a time-warp viewer through which we can examine the consequences of social trends and policies, and hopeful learn from them. I pray that we will halt the inexorable path we have chosen and return to sanity, but I am doubtful.

13 posted on 06/10/2006 6:05:50 AM PDT by fwdude (If at first you don't succeed .......... form a committee and hire a consultant.)
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To: beyond the sea
This is also very scary: "Faith schools could be required to teach that homosexuality was of equal value to heterosexual marriage and if ministers of religion were not properly protected they could be open to legal action for following their duty."

Looks like we could have a lot more home schoolers if this becomes law.

I guess I would rank the gays right up there with the Islamists. Amen.
14 posted on 06/10/2006 6:27:04 AM PDT by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: felisberto
Christian centres that disapproved of homosexual behaviour could be forced to hire out rooms to gay groups and Christian charities could have their public funding cut if they did not agree to the regulations.

If your church doesn't want to abide by Caesar's regulations don't accept Caesar's gold.

Government has no business financially supporting a church with public money and a church should not accept it, if the church is of God he will supply everything it needs. The way the Church of England has been going lately I'm not at all sure that it's still a church of God.

15 posted on 06/10/2006 6:38:57 AM PDT by epow (The way of the cross leads home.)
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To: Alien Gunfighter
Even though it's in England, I'm sure the usual lefty idiots will be quiet about a "separation of church and state" on this topic.

The Church of England is the official state religion. This is what happens when you don't have separation of church and state.
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16 posted on 06/10/2006 8:13:10 AM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: felisberto; All

What's going to be fun is watching this approach move across Europe and seeing how the Eurotwits deal with the Islamofascists who regard homosexuality with even greater hostility than most Christians - Christians generally takig the "love the sinner, hate the sin" approach to gay marriage, while the mooselimbs generally prefer buggering young boys and goats.

(Thoughtful conservatives from the Netherlands of course excepted from my "Eurotwit" characterization.)


17 posted on 06/10/2006 8:28:18 AM PDT by shibumi (".....panta en pasin....." - Origen)
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To: USA Girl
"Hey, why not eight year olds! "

In fact, that is the slogan of MANBLA, "Sex before eight or it's too late." rrretch!
18 posted on 06/10/2006 8:32:44 AM PDT by shibumi (".....panta en pasin....." - Origen)
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To: Gabz; SheLion; Just another Joe; Mears

Yep, when private property is no longer respected, the RR tools get used against them. To bad they won't heed our warnings.....


19 posted on 06/13/2006 4:53:00 AM PDT by CSM ("Most men's inappropriate thoughts end as soon as the girl talks..." - Dinsdale, 5/30/06)
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