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Business Takes English-Only Ordering Policy (Illegals May Pursue Court Action)
Boston Globe ^ | June 9, 2006 | By Patrick Walters

Posted on 06/09/2006 2:55:15 PM PDT by Rick_Michael

PHILADELPHIA -- Bistec con queso? Not at Geno's Steaks.

An English-only ordering policy has thrust one of Philadelphia's best-known cheesesteak joints into the national immigration debate............

has posted small signs telling customers, ``This Is AMERICA: WHEN ORDERING `SPEAK ENGLISH.' "...........

Juntos, a Hispanic neighborhood organization, said it plans to send people to Geno's to try to order in Spanish and may pursue court action, depending on what happens.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: aliens; americanculture; englishonly; illegalimmigrants; immigrantlist; immigration; invasion; tortreformnow
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To: Master Shake

So I guess that if you ever travel to Germany that you would have no problem being told that you cannot be served because you didn't order in German. Or in Italy if you didn't order in Italian. Or Poland if you didn't order in Polish.

The owner is an idiot, but this should in no way have anything to do with the courts.


21 posted on 06/09/2006 3:17:27 PM PDT by frankiep (I respect Islamofacists more than the American left - at least they ADMIT that they hate the US.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
If they're successful in forcing this business into taking sandwich orders in Spanish, then Hispanic owned businesses can and will be forced into serving English speakers, in English.

There is already precedent for that. There was a case in New York a couple of years ago where a Japanese restaurant, which catered primarily to Japanese tourists and expats, had a menu only in Japanese and no one on premises who spoke English. The City sued them for discrimination based on national origin, and forced them to put the menu into English for any gaijin who wanted to come in and order.

22 posted on 06/09/2006 3:17:31 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: namvet66
There are Koreans, French, Japanese. Where are their buttons?"

You shouldn't have brought that up, now everybody will want their own button.

23 posted on 06/09/2006 3:18:20 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: All

P.S. I should have noted that "Whiz, With" has a comma in it and means CheezWhiz on the sandwich, *with* onions. I forgot the onions part, as I can't imagine it without them.


24 posted on 06/09/2006 3:19:34 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Dracian
I'm not sure a retail outlet should be alienating customers

Probably not the best business plan, but it's not for the Courts to decide.

25 posted on 06/09/2006 3:20:01 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: All

The owner will be on Laura Ingraham's show monday morning.


26 posted on 06/09/2006 3:20:11 PM PDT by Jackknife ( "It's not a real party 'til somebody breaks something.")
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To: Bernard
"Cheezboigeh! Cheezboigeh! Cheezboigeh!"

"Cheeps! Cheeps! Cheeps!"

"No Coke - Pepsi!"

Welcome to America.

27 posted on 06/09/2006 3:20:58 PM PDT by Bernard (God helps those who helps themselves - The US Government takes in the rest.)
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To: BunnySlippers
Does that now mean that the government will mandate that the staff be bi-lingual?

Nah. The mandate will come from the courts.

28 posted on 06/09/2006 3:21:41 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Lurking Libertarian

"The City sued them for discrimination based on national origin, and forced them to put the menu into English for any gaijin who wanted to come in and order."

The concept of non-discrimination in public accommodation goes back to the Civil Rights era, and efforts at ending legal segregation. Looks like we're going to see a trial balloon floated, with the intent of greatly (and I do mean greatly) expanding the scope of just what constitutes accommodation. Imagine the expense of being required to hire bilingual or multilingual frontline employees, in order to deal with at least the predominant languages in the local area. What a boondoggle.


29 posted on 06/09/2006 3:24:33 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: namvet66

In college in the late 1960s, my university gave in to demands for a special room in the Student Union for African-Americans. We had perhaps 50, maybe 100 on campus - the football team and some others - out of about 6000 enrollment.

It was controversial at the time, so we all got bent out of shape and started asking for our own rooms at the Union. Mine was for "left-handed Indians" (that would be Native Americans now), but I was turned down, being a party of one.


30 posted on 06/09/2006 3:31:29 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: RegulatorCountry

Our main public school district identified 90 different non-English languages spoken in the homes of students. It's a nightmare trying to coordinate student-parent necessary notifications.

For hurricane season, they've had to go to a computer assisted program to have messages about school closings. Spanish is #1 and Vietnamese is #2, but there are 88 other languages needed for "accomodation."


31 posted on 06/09/2006 3:39:38 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: All

Er, "accommodation." Heat going to my brain.


32 posted on 06/09/2006 3:41:19 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66

yo querro taco bell.....


33 posted on 06/09/2006 3:45:48 PM PDT by Cyclone59 ("Yahyoo, he's my sisters' kid, personally, I think he's a retard.")
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To: frankiep

"So I guess that if you ever travel to Germany that you would have no problem being told that you cannot be served because you didn't order in German. Or in Italy if you didn't order in Italian. Or Poland if you didn't order in Polish."

The majority of western Europe was saved by America, and we had our military safegaurd the western part of Germany...that's the least Europe can do for the people that saved them.

I can't think of any country (in Europe) that doesn't speak multiple languages. The Swiss have three declared languages, and Europe recognized English as their official langauge of business...well, because the two major english speaking countries are economic kings.

You agree that it shouldn't be a civil case; but I differ in how we approach business relations.

I realize people will come to America for tourism, but the bulk of those country already speak our language. I think our national language should be english or else we're just a country of factions.

Recalling the history of Native Americans and European immigrants, it was the language barrier and lack of communication that ultimately led to huge deal of bloodshed. It's just practical that our country atleast address some uniformity on some level.


34 posted on 06/09/2006 3:48:58 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Look at profile for current ways to deal with illegals immigration)
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To: Rte66

"Spanish is #1 and Vietnamese is #2, but there are 88 other languages needed for "accomodation."

Sounds like San Jose,...other than the hurricane part.


35 posted on 06/09/2006 3:50:55 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Look at profile for current ways to deal with illegals immigration)
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To: Cyclone59

¿quiero?

¡Si!

This concludes my annual demonstration of two diacritical marks which I seldom, if ever, use.


36 posted on 06/09/2006 3:51:19 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: cripplecreek
He called it discrimination for straight men to refuse sex with homosexuals

It was, in fact, Disctimination. Discrimination is the main quality of intelligence, perhaps the whole of it. Discrimination is understanding that one thing is different from another. That is all it is. Without discrimination there would not be survival, not for us, not for rats or elephants.

37 posted on 06/09/2006 3:52:15 PM PDT by arthurus (It was better to fight them OVER THERE than here.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

"Think of "hate crimes" and the intended result, versus the reality."

I don't know what the "intended" result was, but my observation has been that hate crimes legislation is most often used to increase punishments for politically incorrect white criminals.


38 posted on 06/09/2006 3:53:31 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: frankiep
The owner is guessing that his business from anti-"diversity" people will pick up more than his business from Spanish only customers will decline. He may not even have any Spanish business.
39 posted on 06/09/2006 3:55:40 PM PDT by arthurus (It was better to fight them OVER THERE than here.)
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To: Rick_Michael

Next, they'll demand the right to pay with Mexican Pesos.


40 posted on 06/09/2006 3:56:31 PM PDT by ArtyFO (I love to smoke cigars when I adjust artillery fire.)
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