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Couple seeks damages after police raid wrong house
Henry Daily Herald ^ | 6-8-06 | By Michael Davis

Posted on 06/09/2006 7:38:19 AM PDT by VRing

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To: A CA Guy
The problem is that juries these days mostly consists of welfare people, government employees and only a few who are not **dependent** minded.

Frankly, that's a problem with juries and with citizens who shirk their duty to serve on juries. (And it is a duty) We are getting the kind of juries we deserve.

We need to change to attitude of the average person concerning jury duty.

221 posted on 06/09/2006 2:28:38 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: Ditto

Dependents have nothing to do and are much more available. That is a big part of the problem.


222 posted on 06/09/2006 2:30:10 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Ditto

Most medium and larger companies provide jury pay, requiring only payback of what the government shelled out. The "low rent welfare jury citizen" is a myth.


223 posted on 06/09/2006 2:30:41 PM PDT by The Red Zone
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$8 million of taxpayer money? Hell no.

But let the punishment fit the crime. The victims here get to kick in the doors of each of these police officer's homes, point loaded firearms with safeties off at their family. Hurl stun grenades, insult, yell at, fondle and grope all of their family members. And if one of the guns accidently goes off, too bad. It'll save a lot of taxpayer dough and make these thugs think twice about kicking in doors. You'd figure at least one of the storm troopers would have been smart enough to read the address on the warrant.


224 posted on 06/09/2006 2:30:56 PM PDT by BJClinton (There's plenty of room for all God's creatures, right next to the mashed potatoes.)
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To: Ditto

I wasn't there, and I'm certain you weren't there either. Was it raining that night? Are all of the houses well marked with street numbers, etc.? Rural homes (and Henry County Georgia is basically a rural community) don't really bother with house numbers, etc. Should the cops have double checked? Of course they should, and I wrote someone should be fired, demoted, or re-assigned for this mess. How much money is another question we disagree on, but I'm for the taxpayers who have to foot the bill and $50,000 sounds fair to me. You want to give them more, that's cool by me, I just wouldn't. I also wrote the cops involved sould be required to make a public apology to those folks, and retrained accordingly. Stuff happens, and not all of it good or fair, but I don't think throwing big piles of money is the answer either. Had they been injured or even killed, then you and I would be on the same page, but they weren't, and I think that's the difference.


225 posted on 06/09/2006 2:31:00 PM PDT by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: A CA Guy

You can't face the principle so you quibble on the details of the analogy. That would be like complaining that Jesus didn't literally plant literal seeds in the literal ground.


226 posted on 06/09/2006 2:32:43 PM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: Ditto
We are getting the kind of juries we deserve.

That is the point I've been trying to make here. We are getting the type of government we deserve also. If people don't like the the way their city is being governed, they can change it. If they don't like the way the jury system is working right now, then they should serve on the jury instead of trying to worm their way out of it everytime they are called up.

227 posted on 06/09/2006 2:33:05 PM PDT by JavaTheHutt ( Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush - DUBYA!!!!!)
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To: geezerwheezer

It was bad enough that the police cap'n himelf stated there was no excuse. They've declared themselves quite guilty. All that remains is consequences.


228 posted on 06/09/2006 2:35:09 PM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: BJClinton
But let the punishment fit the crime. The victims here get to kick in the doors of each of these police officer's homes, point loaded firearms with safeties off at their family. Hurl stun grenades, insult, yell at, fondle and grope all of their family members. And if one of the guns accidently goes off, too bad. It'll save a lot of taxpayer dough and make these thugs think twice about kicking in doors. You'd figure at least one of the storm troopers would have been smart enough to read the address on the warrant.

I like your idea. That's even better than the settlement I proposed in an earlier posting. I'm in full agreement with this one.

229 posted on 06/09/2006 2:35:25 PM PDT by JavaTheHutt ( Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush - DUBYA!!!!!)
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To: The Red Zone
You can't stop law enforcement at the door of a private home because once in a great while a mistake occurs.

That is my basic principle, what is yours? They may never enter a private home and all criminals should keep on trucking?
230 posted on 06/09/2006 2:36:18 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: JavaTheHutt

In ancient Rome, criminal prosecutions were private. Something says that crosses would be waiting for these yokels.


231 posted on 06/09/2006 2:37:20 PM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: A CA Guy

It's amazing how the brakes can be put on error when serious CONSEQUENCES hang overhead.


232 posted on 06/09/2006 2:37:57 PM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: Wolfie
"The Taxpayers want a Drug War, they'll have to cover the costs of the occasional screw-up. So it goes."


I have yet to meet a taxpayer who wants the "War on Drugs" . . .
233 posted on 06/09/2006 2:39:58 PM PDT by stompk
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To: The Red Zone
Unless there was a death, there should be NO MAJOR MONEY damages.
They should pay to repair damage to the home and give 10-25k to them for the mistake and that is it.

A mistake by law enforcement should never be and excuse to find a shyster lawyer in an attempt to hit the lottery with public tax dollars.
234 posted on 06/09/2006 2:41:29 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: stompk

And it is rare to meet a Congresscritter who will not lecture his constituency but rather actually funnels their wishes into the parliament.


235 posted on 06/09/2006 2:41:53 PM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: A CA Guy

There can be very serious psychological damages. It is like a soul murder.


236 posted on 06/09/2006 2:42:37 PM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: JavaTheHutt

ever notice how "gleefully" they destroy the houses they search on "Dallas SWAT" ??


237 posted on 06/09/2006 2:43:01 PM PDT by stompk
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To: A CA Guy

Oh, and the CONSEQUENCES have to be enough that the city managers cannot say "what do I care, that's just as if officer Jones was off sick for a month."


238 posted on 06/09/2006 2:43:44 PM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: The Red Zone
Tough, get over it.

They were living next to a drug dealer, so they must be used to living in a tough neighborhood as it is.

My guess are these are trailer trash level people who are seeking a lottery pay day to make their life.

I've myself mistakenly had several guns drawn on me by law enforcement that was a mistake and I never blamed them based on the knowledge they thought they had.
Similar car in my area where I was driving was involved in a robbery.
I drove into the area, was not in a robbery and was mistakenly pulled over by the police.

BOO HOO

It was scary.
It was a mistake.
It is part of getting the bad guys.
239 posted on 06/09/2006 2:47:49 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

"As I recall, the court found that the officers had failed to follow department procedures that would have alerted a reasonable person to the fact that they were law enforcement officers, and that the resident had no reason to think they were anything other than criminal home-invaders, and was thus perfectly justified in shooting them."

thats a nice case. There might also be less problems if they weren't wearing masks, black pajamas and sneaking around in the dark. . . why are our police hiding?


240 posted on 06/09/2006 2:48:25 PM PDT by stompk
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