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To: Necronomicon
If you bash UN's stances, you are simply bashing the lowest common consensus attainable among all nations togheter. And if you guys believe that you may ride alone despite the level of Globalization we are experiencing nowadays, be my guest...Do you think you would get any better treatment by sitting separately with today's big players like China, Russia, the or the EU just to name a few ?... This thread smells of geopolitic dilettantism to say the least... Today, you work togheter where agreements may be reached, and you forget about the rest, since nobody is 100% autonomous anymore.

I would admit that the short sentiments on this thread would prompt a response like yours. However, in their defense, if you understood the root of these sentiments, you might give them some more credo.

The one thing the heart of Americans will never compromise, despite what the world at large thinks is better, are the principles that constitute and foster "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness." Those principles are eternal in nature; and their Author (not being associated with any one particular government, including our own, heck, maybe especially our own), has conveyed that they have a universal application to ALL people. In other words, if those principles are applied, people will live, live free, and, for the most part, be happy.

However, if those principles are violated, there is no promise.

What you are witnessing here are sentiments who have observed a "long train of abuses" from a body who tries to force peace upon nations by instigating wars. Nevermind the misuse of "oil for food" program and others like it. This kind of abuse can be expected at any level of governing power, no matter who or what it represents.

The real complaint here is the effectiveness of a world governing body that kills hundreds of thousands of peoples needlessly in the name of peace as if they should be the angst arbitor that they are of national affairs. Nations should do as they have always done throughout history: Work out their problems with whomever they have a problem with.

This would keep the greedy grubbing money hoarders and the financial/industrial cartels in check and separate governments who do espouse the principles of Life, Liberty, and Happiness from those who do not.

One of those principles is the principle that ultimately, people, individuals, are to be self-governing and independent of social structures for their sustenance. The more governing, as they suppose, they might need is a proportional admission of their lack in abiding those principles. The chief mission for any government should be to protect and defend those principles and their exercise from the evil of greed and murderous theft.

Greedy men for want of power and wealth are those who orchestrate a constant reminder that we, as a human race, are incapable of exercising those principles; of actually becoming what our divine heritage would have us become; which is why they must continue feeding the propaganda machine that we can never agree upon those universal principles if they want to keep their power.

You see Sir, whether our government is a righteous government or not is not the issue. It is what is burned within the hearts of Americans as their faith in the Almighty would have them be free. Anything less than this would be a waste of time and money. Therefore, as inept as the UN has shown the world to be-and indeed, the very instigator of that which they hypocritically oppose, can you actually blame those in this thread for their stand? Especially for a body who has exercises the very evil which seeks out and destroys those aforementioned principles of Life, Liberty, and Happiness?

No Sir, what really smells is your lack to see things as they should be, and not what they must be because that is the way they are. The UN sucks! That is a economic as well as a metaphoric fact. So, why should we keep them around?

Arrowhead>>>---United Nutcases-->

46 posted on 06/09/2006 4:52:18 AM PDT by Arrowhead
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To: Arrowhead

Thank you for taking the time to repsond to him.

Unlike alot of other arguments, he genually was discussing his PoV. That is, he wasn't just some troll worthy of a Zot or one sentance dismissive comments he was getting.

He did requrie some 'education' however, and I thank you for taking the time to do it.


72 posted on 06/09/2006 7:47:34 AM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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