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Doubting Coulter -- At First (Press release politics not best venue for discussing personal loss)
The American Prowler ^ | 6/9/2006 | Mark Gauvreau Judge

Posted on 06/08/2006 10:59:21 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: TChad

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41 posted on 06/09/2006 1:37:29 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: nickcarraway
Dateline: Chicago 1986

On the (late) evening of July 3rd, I was shot in the chest by some Gotti-wannabe using a .357 Magnum w/cop killer bullets at close range.

That shooting nearly killed me, as I spent two weeks of that month I spent in the hospital in the ICU, with their all but having to ever resuscitate me.

Ergo, I am thee most important shooting victim EVER and, umm, global warming is a reality!

Ps. If I were ever to get shot again, the slug would have to penetrate my NRA card first. : )

42 posted on 06/09/2006 1:37:56 AM PDT by TeddyCon
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To: MichiganConservative

"Your emotions could get in the way of clear thinking if you're a victim. Too many people already have trouble telling the difference between thinking and emoting."

this brings up thoughts of my own experiences as a pacifist feeling Christian up through highschool. this may offer some insight as to why some on the left behave as they do. although some, especially sheehan, validate the thought that many anti war activists are thinly veiled communists.

before & through my time in highschool, i was stuck on a pacifist view of Scripture & my own feelings of horror at the thought of anyone harming another via war or the local police using deadly force. at that time, my brother who joined the Army & survived a tour in Nam, would be confronted by my views which he argued against insightfully, logically. while he was over there, i was painfully angry at his Army superiors for any imagined harm that might come to him. in short, my own fear & horror were partly to blame for my antiwar beliefs. the theological issues were then, & are now, debatable. ie there is a time for war & a time for peace. GOD decides the time. if possible, we are to be at peace with all men. with GOD all things are possible, but islamofascism keeps interfering. when saddam was paying families of suicide bombers for murdering Israelis, they were attacking His chosen people, those who are engraved upon his hands. i think the present conflict illustrates GOD's reaction to saddam's treachery.


in short, i eventually became a Reagan supporter & arch Conservative. now i can see a similarity between my past views & those who oppose our involvement in Iraq.

indeed, there is too much emoting going on. if sheehan & or the jersey girls ever have a conversation with Israelis,Iraqis, Kuwaitis, or Afghans, whose relatives were murdered by saddam, his baathist regime, homicidal palestinians he bribed, or al qaeda insurgents, they might finally get it. it really makes me wonder that if antiwar activists are evolutionists, what part of natural selection don't they get ? maybe they do. they just don't want America to survive [again, are they communists?]. apparently, political opportunism [communist or other] & a shortage of Biblical wisdom is the dark matter of the left. i think Ann has the right telescope to see through it for what it is.


43 posted on 06/09/2006 1:56:12 AM PDT by Psalm_2 (1776 - !?? Dec. 7th 1941. Sept. 11th 2001. Self Defense, A Basic Human Right.)
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To: Rockingham
Excellent article, thanks for the link.
"The only question of interest that remains is how Americans view the Jersey Four and company, and how long before they turn them off."

44 posted on 06/09/2006 2:12:11 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: Screamname

They look like Mafia wives


45 posted on 06/09/2006 2:12:36 AM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (Islam Schmislam blahblahblah, enough already!)
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To: nickcarraway
I think everyone understands the tendency of the swine on the Left to climb upon the nearest corpse to isolate themselves from criticism.

It's what they do. They use the dead for political purposes, just like they use the poor for political purposes. They use everyone.

46 posted on 06/09/2006 2:48:19 AM PDT by Reactionary (The Barking of the Native Moonbat is the Sound of Moral Nitwittery)
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To: nickcarraway

Great article.
I have to admit that I don't think these women enjoyed their husbands dying but I do know and have thought for a long time that they do enjoy the publicity they're getting from it. It's disgusting how they use and have been used for political reasons.


47 posted on 06/09/2006 2:58:48 AM PDT by Cricket24 ("We have met the enemy and it's the U.S. press (and the democrats and some Republicans)!")
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To: nickcarraway

I had no doubts about what Coulter was saying from the beginnning. I've felt the same way all along. My feelings are confirmed everytime I hear people like that wimpusamericanusapologeticus Alan Colmes weep for the terrorist who was killed rather than captured for information, and weep for the poor widdle joisey goils. I thought he was going to pi$$ his pants over all of it last night.


48 posted on 06/09/2006 2:59:56 AM PDT by RushLake (I neutered my dog, now he's a liberal.)
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To: Rumple4

"Ann just has the guts to say what alot of us are thinking."

AND the best part is that she won't back down!!


49 posted on 06/09/2006 3:03:16 AM PDT by Cricket24 ("We have met the enemy and it's the U.S. press (and the democrats and some Republicans)!")
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To: DocRock
Terrorist use innocent humans as targets and shields. The left uses victims as targets and shields.

Very insightful. Thanks.

50 posted on 06/09/2006 3:07:32 AM PDT by GOPJ (The Coultergeist haunts Dhimmicrat nightmares -- Freeper sourcery)
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To: MichiganConservative
It seems to me that if you are the victim of some tragedy, your opinion about related political issues shouldn't be elevated, but regarded with more suspicion. Your emotions could get in the way of clear thinking if you're a victim. Too many people already have trouble telling the difference between thinking and emoting.

But that is the bedrock of liberals... Facts do not matter only "feelings" and "idealism" do! In their fantasy world one can continue (indefinitely) to support and encourage "good government programs" because they were established for "the good of the people"! NEVERMIND THE FACT THAT THE PROGRAM(S) NEVER DELIVER THEIR INTENDED RESULTS AND BLOAT BEYOND RECOGNITION!!!

51 posted on 06/09/2006 3:17:58 AM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: carlo3b
I had allowed the spin doctors on the left to tap into my dignity and use it in a most insidious way to shroud my judgment with phony victims..

If I had any doubt, I watched Nick Berg's father, Michael Berg, blame George W. Bush for his son's death, and not Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, even though we all witnessed his brutal beheading at the hands of al-Zarqawi..

I'm tired of dems using my sense of decency as a weapon against me. I'm tired of their endless guilt trips. Next victim they find and put in the arena will be treated the same as any other spokesperson.

52 posted on 06/09/2006 3:20:57 AM PDT by GOPJ (The Coultergeist haunts Dhimmicrat nightmares -- Freeper sourcery)
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53 posted on 06/09/2006 3:23:16 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Old Landmarks
The response by Kristen Breitweiser and the other 9/11 widows was quite predictable.

I suggest the response was quite predictable because the response was written not by the Jersey Girls, but by their Democrat handlers. The Jersey Girls gladly endorsed the response.

54 posted on 06/09/2006 3:39:04 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: nickcarraway
I can't wait for Ann to destroy the "shields" that O'Reilly hides behind......whatever they are.

He has so many protective shields that it's hard to peel them all away.....and no one has the guts to take on the "king" of the Fox Network.

If anyone can do it, it'll be Ann.

Leni

55 posted on 06/09/2006 3:44:34 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: nickcarraway

My initial reaction was that her "enjoying their husbands' deaths" comment was over the top. I still think that if "enjoying" had been changed to "exploiting" then all of Ann's points would have still been made...

But maybe the tactic of the left wouldn't have received the airplay...

Ann has done this country a service by exposing this "hide behind the infallible victim" tactic of the Left. And they will have a harder time using this tactic in the future because Ann found a way to get this debate in the public eye.

I heard Ann on the radio yesterday, and she said basically, of course I'm not saying they "enjoyed" having their husbands die, I'm saying that they are enjoying what has happened since. I can live with that explanation...


56 posted on 06/09/2006 3:58:39 AM PDT by RobFromGa (The GOP will retain the Senate and House in 2006- Let's Do Something With It!)
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To: nickcarraway
Try this analogy. Someone said the fifth amendment is a shield, not a sword. So also grief is, should be, a shield. But the Jersey Girls and The Woman Sheehan use their grief -- or the status bereavement gives them -- the way the terrorists use mosques, as a place from which to strike.

My understanding, possibly wrong, is that during WWII we stayed away from the sacred and aesthetic precincts of Kyoto because their value was understood to transcend national conflict. I also understand that the Japanese did not try to store weapons in Kinkakuji, the exquisite Golden Pavilion. Had they done so, we would have had a duty to destroy it.

Similarly, if the Jersey girls and their running dogs use bereavement as a safe haven from which to strike out, then they themselves have torn down the protection decent people afford the grieving.

57 posted on 06/09/2006 4:00:25 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (If you find yourself in a fair fight, you did not prepare properly.)
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To: nickcarraway

It's good to see Ann Coulter's shock-'em-with-the-truth method actually works when someone thinks a bit beyond their initial reaction.

The very political 'Jersey Girls' lost their right to be shielded from criticism when they ceased to be 'grieving' widows. They are no different than the charlatan Cindy Sheehan.


58 posted on 06/09/2006 4:03:20 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: nickcarraway
But I simply could not get that line out of my mind: "there was no joy in watching men that we loved burn alive."

Ha! That's exactly the line that jumped out at me, too. Unless they've got film clips showing men identifiable as all their husbands "burning alive," then this is one more demonstration that they are viscerally dishonest, self-dramatizing people.

I'm sure the world is full of such people, but granting them "moral authority" is unwise, at best.

(p.s., Way to go, Ann! You couldn't pay for this kind of advertising!)

59 posted on 06/09/2006 4:26:47 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I am a daughter of God, a child of the King, a holy fire burning with His love.)
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To: doodlelady; kstewskis; Victoria Delsoul; kassie; Molly Pitcher; Miss Marple; lysie
I could not agree more with this assessment.

Regardless of how someone feels about losing a loved one, sincere grief does not go on to exploit the death for political reasons.

60 posted on 06/09/2006 4:30:27 AM PDT by Northern Yankee ( Stay The Course!)
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