[dirtboy]

I got stopped for speeding once. I had to pay a fine. I guess that was "amnesty."

I think a better driving analogy would be you get pulled over for an offense that can lead to you losing your license. You get a deal where you pay a fine but keep your license.

The illegals could care less about a fine - most paid a lot of money to get here. They want to stay here and reap a reward for coming here illegally - namely, a path to citizenship. That is the real prize. So what Bush and the Senate is offering is truly amnesty, because the illegals will get the big enchilada.

[dennisw]

The illegals could care less about a fine - most paid a lot of money to get here. They want to stay here and reap a reward for coming here illegally - namely, a path to citizenship. That is the real prize. So what Bush and the Senate is offering is truly amnesty, because the illegals will get the big enchilada

You have fallen for Bush's bait. Illegal immigrants want legal status here. Citizenship is a distant second.
FORGET CITIZENSHIP! It's a blessing for destitute 3rd worlders to live here illegally. The love living here illegally. It's like a 1000% pay raise. But they would also like legal status - a  green card. This is what they will get automatically under the Bush/US Senate amnesty

I've seen illegal aliens collecting soda/beer cans, begging on the streets, selling fake jewelry in the streets of Manhattan. They love living here illegally. Sure beats Somalia or Honduras

[conservativecorner]

The fat lady is singing this morning. Even the WSJ can read the handwriting on the wall:


Opposing amnesty "a winner for Republicans" - California Reprieve
The Wall Street Journal ^ | June 8, 2006 | Editors




In politics, it's easy to mistake a mere reprieve for something more substantive. So Tuesday's election results in California shouldn't give Republicans, or Golden State taxpayers, the idea that they're out of the woods this election year.


The GOP won what it's hoping is a bellwether House race in San Diego County to fill a seat that opened when former Congressman Duke Cunningham was caught taking bribes. Republican Brian Bilbray defeated Democrat Francine Busby, 49% to 45%. But it's not a good GOP omen that the National Republican Congressional Committee had to spend $5 million on the contest and that Ms. Busby hurt herself with a late-inning gaffe. Last week she told a Hispanic audience that "you don't need papers to vote." She later tried to clarify the remark, but talk radio and cable news played up the comment and surely helped put her opponent over the top. If this is what it takes for the GOP to hold its "safe" seats, Democrats have reason to be optimistic.


Mr. Bilbray made immigration the centerpiece of his campaign, which isn't surprising for a former lobbyist for the restrictionist Federation for American Immigration Reform. Distancing himself from President Bush's guest-worker approach, Mr. Bilbray called for constructing a wall "from the Pacific Ocean to the Gulf of Mexico." Some conservatives are touting his victory as proof that anti-immigration is now a winner for Republicans, and they may be right this year. But they'll have a more convincing case when this result can be reproduced in a district where Republicans don't outnumber Democrats by 3 to 2, and have to outspend them by 2 to 1...


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