Posted on 06/07/2006 6:39:05 AM PDT by Sabramerican
Well, this goes down about as well as a preacher at a ridge runner's convention! Looks like Israel will be the only one likely to do anything, if Olmert has the big brass ones to do so. I wish Reagan were around - I doubt seriously the Gipper would have stood for this.
It may shock you to learn that when Iran threatens Israel many, some even who post here, salivate.
That such a idea can not be contemplated by you is a credit to your decency and evidence that you have not wondered into the Internet swamps where they feel comfortable to let out their true views. Here they only hint at their true feelings.
Oh good. Pictures instead of discussion. Or IOW nothing valid to add to the discussion except scare tactics. Several nations have nuclear technology that aren't considered friendly to this nation of states. What are you going to do about them?
He has succumbed to the disease so accurately described by Rush. He wants more than anything to be liked by those that oppose him. He believes to the depths of his soul that his good intentions will swing the media and the libs over to his side, President Bush is wrong.
The Iranians do NOT need a missile that is able to reach our borders, just one to put into the middle of our battle group in the Meditteranean, or the Indian Ocean. Better yet, put one into sub orbit, to do an EMP blast, turn our nice new cars and computers into expensive junk.
How long until Israel launches a strike on the Iranian nuclear operation?
I will start off the pool by saying 6 months from now- :)
How do you feel about genocidal Nazi War Criminals protected by the CIA from Justice? Bored? (If readers don't understand check his recent postings)
Is Israel threatening Iran or is Iran almost daily threatening Israel with destruction?
If self preservation is preemption, I'd go for preemption.
And the self preservation apples to the US as much as to Israel.
It is Bush who called Iran evil five years ago.
Can you you negotiate with evil? Concede to evil?
Allow evil to possess weapons of mass destruction IF YOU CAN PREVENT IT?
I doubt Olmert has the balls.
"Bush lacks the political clout for another Battle in the WOT...and watching how the media has ripped up the Iraq campaign, who could blame him for being trigger shy?
It would seem he's hesitant to send in troops to dismantle Iran...even though that's the right course of action, and I think he knows that would be the right thing to do. Unfortunately, it's not politically viable. Condi probably persuaded him against going in, because he would lack support internally and from our allies.
The Iranians know this. They know he (Bush) lacks support in congress to wage war against them, they know he lacks support in the media and the masses of sheep that drink from that group think slop trough, and that Europe is afraid of the Iranians and the crazies that would fight for that regime, and so the USA will capitulate...until Iran hits us, or an ally, and only then would it be incredibly clear that Iran must be destroyed for World Peace.
Sad thing to compromise...it's a precursor to the end of the middle east.
Bush is just over a barrel, and you can thank Murtha, Russert, Couric, NYT, CNN, and anyone else you can think of that's been an anti war liberal hack for endangering our lives."
I sadly have to agree with your analysis. A year ago, I strongly believed we were going to attack Iran with boots on the ground to overthrow the current regime. Now it appears we will do nothing, Iran will get nukes. We will likely see a mushroom cloud over NY, LA or one of our other major cities in the next decade. Europe will likely see theirs also. Appeasement has never worked historically, it has only emboldened evil leaders who have the ways and means to destroy. Iran has learned over 30 years we won't do anything for waging war against us, so they will escalate it up to the next step at some point and that is going to be very bad.
You can sum up the second George W Bush term.
He has become his father.
Awright, I'll spell it out:
There is no question Iran wants to build nukes.
Iran wants to build nukes to attack other countries.
(If you don't agree with those two points, you haven't been paying attention.)
Being the aggressor, they have the luxury of the first strike.
Having the first strike option, the only delivery method needed is a truck. Not ballistic missiles, not other high-tech delivery methods, just: a simple truck.
Put nuke in truck.
Drive truck into Israel (or onto boat to USA).
Driver pushes button.
Israel functionally ceases to exist (or USA gravely wounded).
It's not scare tactics, it's just tactics. You're forgetting that it's not about rapid delivery, it's about first delivery. Followup strikes won't be an option.
As for other hostile countries with WMDs: they respond to the Mutual Assured Destruction strategy rather well - survival is a requirement, not an option. In this new case, survival is optional to the aggressor.
That is assuming his government doesn't fall.
How do you feel about Nazi scientists being picked up by the predecessor to NASA to build our technology? Because I don't have a bloodthirst for what amounts to revenge I'm anti-semitic? But wait, if the CIA is protecting him what does that say about our government....
Is Israel threatening Iran or is Iran almost daily threatening Israel with destruction?
Yes, and we heard those threats from other Middle Eastern nations for years didn't we? Israel still there is it? Without US intervention? What's the easiest way to get 'elected' in the Middle East? Spout off about Israel. They never do anything about it and until God's time, I doubt they will
If self preservation is preemption, I'd go for preemption.
Some trust you have in the Almighty I'd say. Israel is protected land (you may want to pick up a Bible and give it a read) until the end
Can you you negotiate with evil? Concede to evil?
Isn't it Republicans who are always spouting if we must we should 'vote for the lesser of two evils'? Sounds like negotiation to me...
Allow evil to possess weapons of mass destruction IF YOU CAN PREVENT IT?
Like Iraq you mean? Oh sorry....
"When you shake hands with the Devil you get burned"
Oh how nice, the usual AP anonymous sources and FR swallows it hook, line, and sinker.
One would think most FReepers would have learned by now not to trust the MSM and their anonymous sources.
You're right. Bringing someone to justice who is responsible for millions of deaths is revenge only.
You're a fool, and worse.
This administration is quickly becoming a joke. And a really bad joke at that.
While we are at it, Bush should withdraw our forces from Iraq, Afghanistan, and from whichever place we fight this so-called "War On Terror".
We can never win such a war if we kill one terrorist and spare another. Iran is a TERRORIST nation that supports terrorist organizations. Period. There should be no negotiations, no talks, no compromises with terrorists and those who support them.
Now, if Bush wants to play this game of isolationism, then by all means let's cut the BS and quit this so-called "WOT". It will do us more harm than good if we are not serious about this monumental endeavor.
How Bush is doing this with a clear conscience is beyond my comprehension. He knows that Islamist Iran denies the existence of Israel and the Holocaust. He knows that Islamist Iran has: humiliated America calling her the great Satan; imprisoned American diplomats and their families for more than 400 days in the late 1970s; murdered 250 American peace keepers in Beirut in the early 1980s; blown the Israeli Embassy in Argentina; sponsored, armed and trained the terrorist organizations-Hamas and Hezbollah; threatened to wipe off Israel with nukes; and threatened to send out 40,000 suicide terrorists to carry out their dirty bombs on the cities of America and EU. He knows very well that the AYATOLLAH ISLAMIST IRAN IS A TERRORIST STATE AND A THREAT TO THE FREE WORLD.
America can do better than being fooled and manipulated by the EU into this line of thinking and direction in dealing with Iran. The EU, which is dominated by leftist secularists and Islamic-Jihadists, has no interest in the security and existence of Israel. And they have no interest in the security of America and the West in general.
Judeo-Christian America has always been the Beacon and Leader of Democracy in the World. And Israel is the Beacon of Democracy in the dark world of the Middle East. America and Israel have common shared moral values that are based on their deep spiritual roots. America is also the Super Power and Leader of the world.
By succumbing to the EU manipulation in dealing with the Ayatollah Islamist Iran, America has surrendered its leadership role and let herself being led into the slaughter place of Appeasement with the terrorist state-Iran.
Judeo-Christian forces in America can put some sanity in America's leadership to see that the road they have been led into will lead to the destruction of America's leadership role in the world. It will also neutralize America's moral values and strength in her war against Islamist-Jihadist terrorism around the world.
And yeah, I understand all about this administration's weak position of negotiation: The Iraq war, oil prices, Bush's political misfortunes, the Liberal media, Russian and Chinese economical interests, etc., but all of these pale in comparison to what awaits the Western world once Iran acquires nukes.
Make no mistake, if we cannot stop Iran from acquiring nukes, then we have already lost the War On Terror. Best thing we can do than is withdraw our forces back to the US and prepare to fight for our lives. WWII will pale in comparison to what comes around the corner. Think of Hitler with nukes. Think of over a billion Muslims smelling America's weakness. Can we win such a war? We can. But our casualty rate will be SIGNIFICANTLY higher if we don't deal with Islamic terrorism now.
Perfectly written. I agree with every word you wrote.
Wish is were the lead editorial in dozens of newspapers. It should be.
A greater fantasy is that one of Bush's advisers, who doesn't answer to appeaser Rice, would lay it on his desk.
I'd bet no later than six months from how - hopefully sooner....if Olmert has the cujones. I know the IDF itself does, no question!
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