Carlsbad attorney critical of leaks in Marine probe-bastards who leaked should be hung

NC Times ^ | 6-6-06

[W04Man]

The House and Senate Armed Services committees are scheduled to conduct hearings into the incidents later this month.

They should bar the Murtha's of the world from this hearing, since they have already rendered their verdict!

http://Vets4Irey.com

[sinkspur]

Hearings, and leaks, lesson the chance of justice being done.

Well, there are leaks around criminal civilian cases here all the time (i.e., the Duke lacrosse players) and justice seems to prevail in spite of them.

[leadhead]

That's a plain spoken attorney!

Needs grammer lessons. Should be hanged.

[NordP]

I agree too. Our military is the finest there is!!!!!!

[Txsleuth]

Well..then, there is precedent for overturning convictions...and we need to remind any and all about that.

I have seen Ollie on TV several times since the Haditha thing blew up last week...and he has been adamant about not trying this case in the media...and he should know.

[sinkspur]

Okay...are you saying they are leaking to soften the blow on THIS case, like you said they are trying to do on the Haditha case??

Yes. I wouldn't use "soften the blow," but it does seem to take some of the edge off when, and if, charges come down.

Contrast this with the way the Pentagon acted as if it was blind-sided by Abu Ghraib.

[Wolfstar]

It seems inappropriate for Congress to hold hearings until the charges have been dealt with.

I have searched in vain in the Constitution for any provision which gives Congress investigative authority, or the authority to issue subpoenas, hold people in contempt of Congress, and related actions. Investigations (Executive Branch), subpoenas and holding people in contempt (Judicial Branch) appear to be gross violations by the Legislative Branch of the separation of powers.

Congress claims it needs to conduct oversight since it passes budget bills. Well, oversight is one thing, but Congress routinely (and shockingly without question) issues subpoenas to private citizens, conducts investigations into the affairs of private citizens, and holds people in contempt if they do not comply with Congressional investigations.

One might accept that, although it is not so stated in the Constitution, Congress does need to conduct budgetary oversight. But Congressional hearings should be limited in scope solely to such matters.

[Txsleuth]

Perhaps....but, I don't like leaks at all...and I think this just stirs up NEW stories from Iraq, that all of a sudden ANOTHER case of our military massacreing civilians is "found"...

Plus, as has been said many times on the Haditha threads...in that culture, it is a good thing to be a liar...so, I don't know how our military can actually KNOW when/if to believe anyone that is supposedly a "witness".

[SE Mom]

In reference to your thread- some more interesting bits and pieces..

[ZOOKER]

Incorrect grammar. Pictures are hung, people are hanged. There is an exception, however:

"They said you was hung!"

"They was right!"

[TankerKC]

What if the Pentagon is directing the leaking?

Do you have a theory? Please share.

[SJackson]

I have seen Ollie on TV several times since the Haditha thing blew up last week...and he has been adamant about not trying this case in the media...and he should know.

Are you familiar with the Son Thang incident in Vietnam which North became intimately involved with?

If not, I'll post a couple links tomorrow.

The Solis view, legitimate, is that war crimes were committed and the two final acquittals were nullifications. Brought about by the additional testimony brought into the case by North. Personally, I think there is a lot of room for doubt, but unfortunately while the Solis book is widely acclaimed, as it should be, the opposing view comes across only in Randy Herrod's (an acquitted defendent) book Blue's Bastards, Blue being North, and a few articles that I doubt you can find on the internet.

The incident is hauntingly similar to Hadithah, accusations of murder of civilians in the face of enemy fire, in the Son Thang case not confirmed till later. One of the lessons, use a civilian lawyer.

Did Military Justice Fail or Prevail?

[Marine_Uncle]

It's beyond me why any military attorneys or otherwise would want to leak a damn squeak to the L/MSM on anything.
Maybe it is high time some of these type folks should be sent to special training to learn how to use an M16,M4, then assinged temporary duty walking the streets of Iraq with soldiers or Marines doing SASO patrols.
Perhaps their sad asses would come around and start acting a bit like soldiers and Marines.

[FlingWingFlyer]

Finally! A lawyer I like! I'd like to see everyone in the "media" hung in public also. I'm sorry, we're dealing with DemocRAT girlymen here. I meant hanged in public.

[sinkspur]

Do you have a theory? Please share.

I did. The military is releasing, in dribs and drabs, some very unpleasant details of these incidents in an effort to defuse the final reports.

[Sacajaweau]

Hillary is on the armed services committee along with Kennedy. There's a clue in there someplace.

[Paladin2]

"The bastards who leaked the information should be hung in a public square"

Might as well add SP Fitz to the attractions.

[pissant]

LOL. It'd be a real hootenanny.

[Sacajaweau]

Ahhhhhhhh....I knew it. Hillary and Kennedy are on that committee. I'm sure all these leaks are "directed" by Hillary. She sits in the background....letting her boot lickers do the leaking.

And these Dems seek to make one of their own (Hillary) Commander in Chief. God help us!!

[maxwellp]

I'll ditto your Post No. 5. Thanks for your support of our Marines!