Posted on 06/06/2006 6:48:04 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy
The invaders from the South get it all, thanks to our lousy senators!
Say what? Where was this guy for the last 23 years as the feds spent every penny of the Social Security surplus?
This is yesterdays news, you need to keep up.
from yahoo
By KEVIN FREKING, Associated Press Writer
Mon Jun 5, 6:13 PM ET
WASHINGTON - Tens of millions of low-income Americans will soon have to show their birth certificates or U.S. passports if they want to obtain health care through their state Medicaid programs.
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The requirement that beneficiaries provide proof of citizenship goes into effect July 1. It's designed to root out cases of illegal immigrants getting their health care paid for by the government
Well...the elderly vote. They consistently turn out for elections. If they start to raise a fuss about the high costs of illegal immigration, the politicians will listen.
See? We should have voted for the bloated Algore! He would have put all that social security money in a locked box!
The liberals spin immigration as being good for social security and medicare. That's absurd. The taxes the average worker pays do not currently cover the cost of social security and medicare benefits. Importing millions of low wage workers who don't pay even as much as the average worker in taxes is just going to make the problem worse.
Can you give us the link? I googled and couldn't find the article.
But what you say is in contrast with what Mayor Bloomberg said last week - he specifically told aliens not to fear seeking treatment; not to worry about their status, etc. And isn't this the concept that the voters in California tried to adopt years ago, only to have shot down by the 9th Circus?
Do you think this is really going to be adhered to? I'm a little skeptical, altho I hope it is.
susie
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060605/ap_on_he_me/medicaid_citizenship_1
BUSH AND THE REPUBLICANS DID THIS
The article left me here. Seniors are soaking up a big portion of the budget and have a big problem with anyone who suggests that maybe others need to keep more of their own money so they can afford to raise a family. Seniors are one of the biggest lobbies around for more government intrusion into our lives - just watch the AARP in action.
Today's seniors were sold (and accepted) a bill of damaged goods re SS, they never paid enough into the system to offset the benes they're getting, and they are the major group standing in the way of meaningful, rational reform such as individual accounts that might allow those of us who pay 15% a year into the system to maybe afford a retirement of our own.
The bill required that Medicaid applicants show a birth certificate or U.S. passport but gives the administration leeway in saying other documents could be acceptable. An example might be a sworn affidavit that describes why documentary evidence does not exist or cannot be obtained.
Directors of community health centers, which specialize in helping the poor access health care, have asked the administration to accept as proof of citizenship report cards, voter registration cards, tribal documents and military ID cards.
Sounds like it won't be all that effective if the report card change is made, and who do they swear an affidavit to? The hospital who is hungry for Medicaid monies?
One other question. How much of the illegal alien healthcare is paid for by medicaid? I thought one complaint from the hospitals was that they were not being reimbursed for most of the costs, so, will this bill be much of a drop in the bucket or is it just going to shift the burden further from the Federal to the State and local govts?
susie
Well first of all, they need to eschew themselves of AARP anti-American "you can't function without us" crap and get serious about what's at stake with our Nation. I'm in the "elderly" class and it seems my age group is only concerned about "what's in it for me" socialism, flitting around in their Buicks instead of continuing to be an example to their kids and grandkids, teaching them the values that this (once) great nation was founded on. Some do, but not enough.
My generation was taught directly by "the greatest generation" but we have allowed garbage mouth speech, dumbing down of education, allowed socialist/Marxist philosophy to gain a foothold, all by not doing our duty and standing against this scourge. We abdicated our responsibilities. My opinion of course, but it sure seems to hold water! We (my generation) seems to be the pivot point on these matters.
Now, the good part is: look at our wonderful military personnel, God bless those "youngsters", my heart sings when I see them on TV, in public and read of such remarkable achievements accomplished by them. I'm not kidding, my heart skips a beat when I see them.
While your post 11 is spot on, you are wasting your time arguing.
The point of the article is to scapegoat the illegals for everything from the WOT, to Social Security to "I have a hangnail".
Agreed. The problem is their children. They spawned the most self-centered and self-oriented generation that the nation has ever seen. The baby-boomers will treat their parents the same way that they've treated their children, via "daycare" and pawning them off to society. They wouldn't want to have their lives in convenienced.
Before people pile on, clearly not referring to all BBs.
BTW, where's the AARP on this issue! Hmmm...
They know where their bread gets buttered.
federal spending on medicaid is about 250 billion a year
the states spend another 100 billion or so.
I have no idea how much immigrants get.
But, but, I thought that illegals would help to heal the social security system... /s
I suspect the burden will just shift, since I'm pretty sure that by law the hospitals MUST treat them. Someone will pay it. Now it just won't be the feds.
susie
from usa today
"States continue to face long-term financial pressure from the soaring cost of Medicaid, the state-federal program that provided medical insurance for 57 million low-income people last year. State spending on Medicaid rose 8.1% to $119 billion in 2004, according to the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services."
another article put medicaid for the federal level at 220 billion for 2002.
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