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Vatican Condemns Contraception, Abortion, Same-Sex Marriage
Breaking News.ie ^ | 6/6/06

Posted on 06/06/2006 5:43:16 AM PDT by areafiftyone

The Vatican today issued a sweeping condemnation of contraception, abortion, in-vitro fertilisation and same-sex marriage, declaring that the traditional family has never been so threatened as in today’s world.

The document was issued by the Pontifical Council for the Family, whose head, Cardinal Alfonso Lopez Trujillo, is a strong opponent of the use of condoms under any circumstances.

However, the document did not mention an ongoing debate within the Vatican on whether the Roman Catholic Church could permit condoms to battle Aids when one partner in a marriage had the virus.

It reaffirmed the famous 1968 encyclical “Humanae Vitae” that stated the Vatican’s opposition to contraception.

Since then, it said, couples “have been limiting themselves to one, or maximum two children”.

“Never before in history has human procreation, and therefore the family, which is its natural place, been so threatened as in today’s culture,” said the 57-page document.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes
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To: HamiltonJay

OK, thanks.


61 posted on 06/06/2006 7:35:56 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Romulus

I believe Henry the VIII was the guy who beheaded an astronomer not the Vatican.


62 posted on 06/06/2006 7:36:01 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicans Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For the Same Reason!)
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To: little jeremiah

I agree also, in that I believe same sex attraction, is not a choice.


63 posted on 06/06/2006 7:38:05 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: areafiftyone
NO MAN AND OR YOUNG MAN IS GOING TO KEEP HIS PANTS ZIPPED ALL THE TIME!

We're nothing but mammals, so let's just do it like they do it on the Discovery Channel ...

I was a "virgin male" until the evening following my wedding. I was 27 years old, at the time.

I am a Roman Catholic

So's Ted Kennedy.

64 posted on 06/06/2006 7:38:08 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ExtremeUnction
Unfortunately for her, my Catholic dad did not. Result? 7 kids.

You consider yourself and your six siblings "unfortunate"??????

This thread is appalling ...

65 posted on 06/06/2006 7:39:29 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: BearWash

No one said it was easy! It takes conviction, strength of character, appreciation of the value of virtue to do the right thing. And, as you note, it usually takes belief in God and knowing that "as you sow, so shall you reap" is a natural law.

I know the difference in my own life of what it's like to give in to sinful desires, and what's it's like to restrain them. One way is a path of darkness, the other a path to light.


66 posted on 06/06/2006 7:41:41 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: areafiftyone
I have a HUGE problem with the Catholic Church's views on Contraception.

Shouldn't be a problem at all. Nobody's forced to join. But if you believe in artificial contraception, then sex is merely about orgasms, so hello legitimacy of homosexuality.

67 posted on 06/06/2006 7:47:18 AM PDT by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: areafiftyone
Condoms are necessary evils in a not so perfect world full of people who do not believe in abstinence. It stops the spread of AIDS/HIV

So you would have sex with someone you knew had aids if you had a condom?

68 posted on 06/06/2006 7:49:39 AM PDT by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: markomalley

I must commend you on your excellent post. I hope you continue to comment on articles relating to the Catholic Church and social issues.


69 posted on 06/06/2006 7:51:46 AM PDT by khnyny (Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.- Winston Churchill)
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To: BlazingArizona
At least they're no longer beheading astronomers. Maybe in another 500 years they will accept biology, too.

Wow. Ignoramus maximus. No wonder you think what you do about biology.

70 posted on 06/06/2006 7:52:17 AM PDT by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: khnyny

Thanks!


71 posted on 06/06/2006 7:54:34 AM PDT by markomalley (Vivat Iesus!)
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To: areafiftyone
ROFLMAO! SAD Isn't it? I'm a Roman Catholic and I will never understand some of their thinking!

Nominally, perhaps.

72 posted on 06/06/2006 7:54:47 AM PDT by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: little jeremiah
Same sex attraction may not be a choice (although some homosexuals do admit they chose the "gay" life), but every act of sex is a choice.

No, it is not "A" choice, it is the result of a series of choices. No one make "a" choice to be a drug addict, yet they make all the little choices that lead them right there.

73 posted on 06/06/2006 8:01:13 AM PDT by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: TradicalRC

Of course not. Dont' be silly. But alot of people have sex with people whom they don't even know and those people have the HIV virus. And those people don't even know it themselves. Its not something that just pops up like a wart or something letting you know its there. Unless you get tested every three months after having unprotected sex you don't know if you have it. Incubation period is usually 3 months to develop the virus. After that, it take a few years to develop full blown AIDS. In the meantime if you don't get tested you will never know you have it and can be spreading it to other people. But if you use a condomn you don't spread it around.


74 posted on 06/06/2006 8:03:10 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicans Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For the Same Reason!)
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To: netmilsmom
Used correctly every time people have sex, it is over 95% effective against the transmission of HIV.

Aye, there's the rub...

75 posted on 06/06/2006 8:04:22 AM PDT by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: netmilsmom
Cheap and reliable, the traditional condom (or male condom) is used by millions all over the world to avoid pregnancies. Until recently, it has also been the only barrier method for preventing the passing of sexually transmitted diseases (STDs), including HIV, between two sex partners. Used correctly every time people have sex, it is over 95% effective against the transmission of HIV.
According to the NIH Summary Report published in 2000, condoms are only 85% effective against HIV transmission. Brent Bozell wrote an article in 2003 ("AIDS Education...Or Condom Promotion?," in which he cites an even more frightening rate of failure in preventing STD transmission:
In July 2001, a study for the National Institutes of Health found that while use of condoms was about 85 percent effective at preventing transmission of HIV, that’s a failure rate of 15 percent. Human papilloma virus, or HPV, is the cause of more than 90 percent of all cases of cervical cancer, which kills more American women each year than AIDS. The NIH analysis found no evidence that condoms prevent HPV transmissions.

76 posted on 06/06/2006 8:05:54 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: pissant
The Catholic view is that sex is not a recreational endeavor, but needs to be confined to married couples, with the purpose of procreation.

Not quite. It is more accurate to state that the Church view is that there should be no artificial breach between the recreational and procreational aspects of marital conjugality. We must always allow for the full openness of giving ourselves to each other.

77 posted on 06/06/2006 8:07:01 AM PDT by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: BritExPatInFla
On the subject of masturbation modern psychology provides much valid and useful information for formulating a more equitable judgment on moral responsibility and for orienting pastoral action. Psychology helps one to see how the immaturity of adolescence (which can sometimes persist after that age), psychological imbalance or habit can influence behavior, diminishing the deliberate character of the act and bringing about a situation whereby subjectively there may not always be serious fault. But in general, the absence of serious responsibility must not be presumed; this would be to misunderstand people's moral capacity.

As a practical matter, almost all adolescent males masturbate, more or less. Pastorally, it would be presumptuous to hold that all of these young males are guilty of sin that will keep them from the eternal vision of God. Often, it can be helpful to see the repetition of this solitary act as a growth phase from which the vast majority of men emerge ready to share themselves with a spouse.

In some cases, a habit remains, which is still likely not subjectively sinful. A man should work to overcome this, and reserve himself for his spouse.

Human weakness in the area of sexuality is most often the reason for failure. One should not put one's self in some little corner of hell, or leave the Church out of frustration as it calls us to perfection. We will never be perfect, but we can rely on God's help, and each others' help, in growing past any addictive behavior in this or any other area.

78 posted on 06/06/2006 8:14:44 AM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: sinkspur

Why am I not surprised Sinkspur is defending self-defilement? Maybe because his Confessor told him it was OK.


79 posted on 06/06/2006 8:17:35 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: areafiftyone
But if you use a condomn you don't spread it around.

No, it's still spreading among certain communities. Abstinence would stop ALL STD's dead in their tracks. If THAT is your real concern, then THAT is what you ought to advocate.

80 posted on 06/06/2006 8:18:59 AM PDT by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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