"All too often the "conservative" guest buys into the premise and thereby distorts the argument."
Exactly.
And this is the key to refuting liberals' lies. You must reject their premise, which thanks to a cooperative mass media in the last two generations, has become accepted fact.
This fundamental disagreement with liberals at the root perception of the way the world works, is why I can no longer tolerate the company of the Left.
Same here. Their notion of reality is so distorted that there can be no common ground for discussion or debate. In particular, they have a disturbing indifference to whether a statement is actually true -- if it's something they wish were true, then that's close enough. You can't argue with someone who is operating in his own personal reality.