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So do I, and I really, really, regret the absolute tsunami of bile and arrogance that drives it.

For a bit there, I thought you were apologizing for the anti-evolution crowd. But you seem to be regretting one side.

And, no, I neither know nor care what your side of the debate is, I am not directing comment toward your position or your self; only toward the inevitable unraveling of anything FR is supposed to represent when crevo/evo links appear.

There's an issue about what goes into science classes. I'm always dismayed that some discount science as an arbiter of this content. There's another question about what the role of conservatism is in this issue.

Evolution is observable, apparently sometimes reversible, and certainly logical.

Excellent! And the only place I want it is in science class. Nobody has to preach it in their church.

It's the God versus convenient 'soup' thing that can't be proved, screws up the voltage, and [as I understand it] was only part of Darwin's contribution to evolution by osmosis from other contemporary and subsequent commentators.

Darwin's published works do not speculate on the origin of life.

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( re: evolution)And the only place I want it is in science class. Nobody has to preach it in their church.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

So why should the government have the power to herd children into it building and FORCE evolution on them against their will and that of their parents? Why does the government have the arrogance to actively undermine the religious belief of children?

If it would be wrong for the government to FORCE citizens into to churches, then it is equally wrong for government to actively, and deliberately destroy the religious values of children.

The real problem here isn't evolution or ID. The problem is the existence of government schools. We should begin the process of privatizing universal K-12 education. Let parents, teachers, and principals privately settle the matter of evolution, or ID and hundreds of other political, cultural, and religious land mines.